Has the Mass Media Affected You

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  1. Kris P. Bacon

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    Over the last few years I’ve noticed many changes, but two specifically stand out. The first is what I’ll call self-censorship and the second is the amount of blatant political indoctrination presented by the media. In fact, it’s now so blatant that reality is in danger of becoming a conspiracy theory.

    Self-Censorship

    The freedom to think critically and express opinions is a hallmark of democracy as expressed in the 1948 UN Declaration of Human Rights. The media insistence to think alike, or group think, is a result of indoctrination which internalizes the dominant narrative. Internalization is the visible sign of conformity when we accept the mass media version of reality and see our beliefs staring back at us because it’s where we got them from. In time it changes our thoughts and behaviour. That’s the stage we’re at now.

    Does my content tick the right boxes? Does it offend a minority culture? Is it social media safe? Does it follow the prescribed agenda? The mass media is the safest form of current expression as the content has already been checked and why it’s so widely used. What it lacks is explanation and why it’s nearly always presented as a statement.

    Media Indoctrination

    Let’s take an example. "Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops." In a bio-lab far away, Ukraine is producing Mutant Ninja Turtles? Five pages of utter mainstream nonsense follows.

    Facts don’t matter anymore, you can’t debate with indoctrinated people it’s just an endless chorus of learned beliefs. Putin became an overnight monster, like Ghaddafi, Saddam and Assad before him, the ‘Z’ marking on Russian military vehicles became a swastika and a series of Ukrainian military defeats became victories. I’ve seen this corruption of reality in other countries and I’m seeing it again, but this time in the west.

    You recently saw how easily the media took over whole populations reducing them to masked locked down quivering wrecks with tales of a deadly plague that could only be stopped by doing what they were told by the government. Although a few die hard Covid fanatics still linger, the media flicked a switch and it moved to the next ‘crisis.’ In other words, the media we once went to for news has now largely become a propaganda machine that gives us its own version of how and what we should think.

    Has the mass media affected you?
     
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    Your post, especially the second part is a hodgepodge of unrelated topics: Masks, Putin, Saddam, Covid ... If you want to debate those topics, you need to open a thread for each.

    So I'll just comment on the first part. Seems to me like you're reading to much of a "Conspiracy Theory" into the Corporate Media. Reality is very simple.

    Corporate Media is a business. Their purpose is not to indoctrinate. It has no "hidden agenda". Just like any other business, what the Corporate Media seeks is to make money. Period!

    Depending on your audience, some of them make money by telling the truth. So they'll hire fact-checkers. Others make money by lying so they don't bother with fact checking at all. Some target a Democratic audience to make money, some target a Republican audience. Other might target both. You don't insult your audience, so if you want it to include minorities, or people who despise bigots, you don't offend offend them. If you cater to white supremacists (or to a white supremacist former President), you WILL offend minorities at every opportunity you get.

    It's simple. They just want to make money for their shareholders.
     
  3. Kris P. Bacon

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    Yes, I tried to summarize, but I take your point.

    The post isn’t about a conspiracy theory as in questioning are the media responsible for content, but the effects it’s having on western populations.
     
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    i don't think anyone has said this better. this is, of course, the accurate answer.
     
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    No, it has not. You?

    Correct. There is no evil agenda to indoctrinate people. The only agenda is to make money. There is money to made from both RW and LW audience as well as neutral audience (like those who watch local news, sports etc). News channels are only one way for media corporations to make money. They are also into making movies, offering sports, soap operas, DIY channels, history, science, gardening, etc, etc.
     
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    there is plenty of propaganda out there, and it is carried in the news, but only, as @Golem says, if it is in some way profitable.
     
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    Has the Mass Media Affected You

    No
     
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    Thread Glossary

    mass me·di·a
    /ˈmas ˈˌmēdēə/
    pl n
    1. media that contradicts Kris P's preconceptions.
     
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    These 6 corporations control 90% of the media outlets in America. The illusion of choice and objectivity.” This has no effects?
     
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    Why would it have an effect? I don't know what conspiracy theory is rolling around in your head, but they just want to make money. What could be any more objective than that!
     
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    Well I stopped watching MSNBC when every Trump tweet was a breaking news story worth wall to wall coverage until the next Trump tweet. I guess that counts as affecting me.
     
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    Whilst the OP didn't make the best examples of how the media has affected Americans(especially Conservatives), the main point is, that the vast majority of the media in America is easily liberal Democrat. And they will lie, manipulate, or do whatever they have to, to try and cheat and win in Politics, and to sway voters, and to manipulate statistics, simply for power.

    Unfortunately, there is a two tier justice system, and Democrats can simply hide their mistakes, and immorality, because they control most of the media in America.

    At first, I did study you on here. I was some what impressed by all of the messages, and views you were getting. I thought to myself, hmm, he must have really great points. The more I read upon things that you say, and study you, the less impressed I become, and realize, that you're just like most other democrats on here.

    It's hilarious to me, that you lecture the OP about pushing "Conspiracy Theories". Because all of that crap originated from the far left wing nut jobs in America anyways. lmao!

    "Corporate Media is a business. Their purpose is not to indoctrinate. It has no "hidden agenda". Just like any other business, what the Corporate Media seeks is to make money. Period!"

    Are you talking about the 1 percenters that the Democrat Politicians constantly Psychological Project, by telling the American people that the rich need to pay their fair share? Yeah, and I'm sure that they actually don't hold them accountable! Especially, considering things like, owe, Hillary Clinton was on the board of Walmart!!! hahaha. lol. And Democrat Politicians can easily scare and control many corporations into doing what they want threw political correctness. cough cough. The baseball Allstar Game.

    Spare us your liberal socialist illogical lectures.


    "You don't insult your audience, so if you want it to include minorities, or people who despise bigots, you don't offend offend them. If you cater to white supremacists (or to a white supremacist former President), you WILL offend minorities at every opportunity you get."

    I'm getting tired of dumb democrats preaching about racism, when their party are the ones that started the KKK. Also, our party our the ones that ended slavery(Abe Lincoln).
    White supremicists tend to hate Jewish people. Donald Trump made the United States recognition of Jerusalem as capital of Israel.

    "
    American Jewish organizations
    The majority of prominent American Jewish organizations welcomed the move,[38] including the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, which comprises 51 national Jewish organizations, as well as by a number of its member organizations: AIPAC, the Jewish Federations of North America, the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, Hadassah, the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America and the National Council of Young Israel. The Conservative Movement's US, Israel and global branches also welcomed US recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.[39] Orthodox Union, the US' largest umbrella organization representing Orthodox Jews, thanked Trump for "beginning the process of relocating the US Embassy to Jerusalem".[40]

    The Anti-Defamation League said recognition was "important and long overdue", while continuing to express support for a two state solution. AIPAC expressed its support for an "undivided Jerusalem" but also said that relocating the American embassy to Jerusalem would not "prejudge the outcome of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process". Morton Klein, who heads the Zionist Organization of America, said that Trump was "finally recognizing the obvious". The Simon Wiesenthal Center said Trump's announcement "will right an historic wrong".[41] The announcement was also welcomed by the Republican Jewish Coalition.[37][42]

    The Reform Jewish movement called it "ill-timed" and said it would "exacerbate the conflict", but also declared that "Jerusalem is the eternal capital of the Jewish people and the State of Israel" and that they "share the President's belief that the US embassy should, at the right time, be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem".[43][37] The Jewish Democratic Council of America similarly expressed support for Jerusalem as an undivided capital of Israel, but criticized Trump for neglecting to "meaningfully support peace between Palestinians and Israelis". Left-wing Mideast policy group J Street said the timing was "premature and divisive". J Street, New Israel Fund, and progressive Zionist organization Ameinu expressed concerns that the move would undermine Middle East peace efforts and could lead to violence.[37] "


    United States recognition of Jerusalem as capital of Israel - Wikipedia


    and owe yes, by the way, Donald Trump's, daughter(Ivanka), married a Jewish man as well.
     
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    HAS THE BIAS MEDIA AFFECTED ME? THIS SAYS IT ALL FOR ME. HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

    :rock_slayer: :evil:
     
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    That is inaccurate. There is NO "liberal Democrat" media, other than a handful of blogs.

    You would have to quote the "lie" for us to know what you are talking about. But of course Corporate Media "manipulates". They will report on whatever makes them more money. Give emphasis to Hillary's emails, if they believe that will increase their profits, or make it appear like a "scandal" if the IRS is doing its job (reference to the idiotic 501c4 "scandal")

    In the rest of your post you elaborate on this fake "democrats control the media" unsubstantiated claim. You would first need to substantiate it and show that it's in Corporations' best interest to maintain in power a party that would increase their shareholders' taxes, force them to give healthcare to their workers, and cut their carbon emissions.

    And the part about Trump not being a white supremacist because he moved the embassy is just plain nonsense. He has demonstrated again and again that he is, but that's a different topic.

    When somebody goes off on all kinds of directions derailing their own thread, that's clear indication that they didn't know what they were talking about from the start.
     
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    They are responsible for not committing libel or slander...slader is verbal, libel is written usually.
    Credibility is a thing, so they are only responsible for staying in business as far as I know. What keeps them in business is their targeted audience. So they censor based on that.

    Usually if it's a fly-by-night news feed that can disappear before slanderous accusations are investigated ..then it's been a safe bet that it's not credible.
     
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    Yes, absolutely. When you see their blatant partisanship and bias and unfairness in reporting, you can understand how much of a threat they are to both society and democracy.
     
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    And pretty much provides the conclusion as to why CNN and MSNBC have lost over 80% of their viewership with rating below the Cartoon channel and Nickelodeon.

    Also why the broadcasters of the kangaroo committee lost 60% of their viewership ONLY while airing the committee hearings.

    The American voter is wising up to fake news and fake claims. The aren't buying into it like they did before.
    A good thing to see.
     
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    Definitely yes, but's that not my only source, thanks God. :)
     
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    The media is a for profit business.

    The best way to make money is to give the audience what they want.

    This results in polarization on both sides, as media with liberal audiences want to focus on things that keep liberal viewers watching, and media with conservative audiences want to focus on things that keep their viewers watching.

    The only bias in the media is a bias towards profit. The political bias comes from the audience, and the organization just catering to their audience.

    If we don't like it, we need to remove the profit motive from media, which isn't happening in the US.
     
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    You appear to be under the impression that I give a crap about viewership. My only interest is that the criminals go to prison. And, for that, we only need an audience of ONE: Merrick Garland.
     
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    Garland is now your new hope for Trump salvation?
    He better get busy. Midterms are going to be a blood bath and he isn't going to find any allies 2 months from now.
    lol
    And you will get to see what a real committee looks like and what they can do.
     
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    Do you have "national" media? I.e. independent, gov funded.
     
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    NPR?

    Although, most conservatives would say NPR is liberal. I don't necessarily agree with that, but they would make that argument.
     
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    I didn't realise. I've heard some nice radio documentaries from NPR.
     
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    No. He's YOUR hope for Trump salvation. If he doesn't prosecute, any current or future President will know they can break the law without fear of punishment.
     
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