Has the Republican Party become irrelevant?

"President Trump famously declared during his 2016 campaign that he loved the “poorly educated” because voters with lower levels of schooling delivered an overwhelming share of votes to him," the conservative Washington Times.

Its leader and the leading Republican candidate for the Presidency, Donald Trump, has so much baggage Republicans make an effort to avoid talking about him. Grassroots Republicans, who are infatuated with Trump, avoid talking about him or what their party is doing.

That may be true because what their party is doing is irrelevant and does not warrant discussion.

Republican leaders engage in various activities that are designed to keep its rural base happy. These activities have no worthwhile purpose.

Republican legislatures are passing laws that severely restrict transgenders in education, sports, and medical care.

Various Republicans are waging war against something called woke. They do not know what woke is, and neither do grassroots Republicans, but it sounds good.

While attacking woke, these same Republicans are attacking the Critical Race Theory, which is an effort by Republicans to show that slavery and racism do not exist, so, we shouldn't feel guilty. So say Republicans for the benefit of their base.

Talking about irrelevancy, House Republicans recently passed a bill concerning the debt limit that they knew was going nowhere. They think the meaningless bill is a bargaining chip with the President. Not only is the bill irrelevant, but it raises serious questions about Republican intelligence.

To keep its evangelical base happy, Republicans think it is a great idea to pass laws in which the state controls the health of pregnant women. Come to think of it, that is not irrelevant. That is an assault on our democracy.

The Republican governor of Florida is fighting Disney World. Disney is Florida's largest employer, paying over a billion dollars in taxes every year. Even Republicans are questioning what the Republican governor is doing. The Republican governor wants to become our next President.

Republicans have grown weary of trying to find something wrong with President Biden who quietly goes about his duties without fanfare or controversy. So, they attack the President's son and his computer, Hunter Biden.

Former vice-president Pence testified today concerning former President Trump's role in the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection attempt to overthrow our elected government.

But grassroots Republicans are happy.

 

Yet they believe they are right and you are blindly following. If so many people can believe they are right while being wrong, shouldn't you question your own beliefs?

 

I wish they separated education surveys based on college rather than just saying educated. I think the educated anymore are by in large nothing but brainwashed fools. I didn’t graduate high school. I recently got my GED at 41 years old. I didn’t even study, just took the test and even got a college credit for how well I scored. The biased questions even in the GED relating to climate change, and math questions phrased in political topics made my nerves boil.

I’m here as a living example that uneducated doesn’t mean stupid. There are founders of this country that were homeschooled (another form of school ridiculed by the left). Some of the most unintelligent morons I have ever met were considered educated. Trump himself is considered educated. Biden is considered educated. Even Kourtney Kardashian is considered educated. Excuse me while I couldn’t care less about your bias of the so called uneducated. I’ll call them the working class.

 

Seems you lack any reasonable conclusions. Its hard to find relevancy in word salads that aren't based in factual reality.

 

If I had a nickel for every time the left said the Republican party was dead.

 

The irony of people calling Trump voters uneducated because that's what their TV told them to say.....


Abstract
This chapter unpacks myths about the white working class and its support for Donald Trump in the 2016 election. Popular media wrongly suggest that millions of white, economically disadvantaged, uneducated blue-collar workers were responsible for Trump's victory. The chapter examines the evidence, showing that two-thirds of Trump voters made more than the median income but more than half of those without college degrees were in the top half of the income distribution. The chapter suggests that these voters were not motivated by enthusiasm about Trump's priorities but rather were protesting a system that had left them behind. The myth of the struggling.......
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https://academic.oup.com/cornell-sc...er-abstract/262402544?redirectedFrom=fulltext

 

Sadly what they've become is spoilers.

 

I find it entertaining that Democrats so frequently accuse conservatives of wanting one party rule but as you can see they frequently all but salivate over the very thought that that might come to pass with them at the wheel.

It seems it never even occurs to them that if their party starts going in a direction that they do not like that they would have zero alternative

 

I think much of the issue the Republican Party is having is they long for some earlier time that they have romanticized. A time that no longer exists and can never exist again.

Where their religious values were the vast majority, women knew their place, blacks were struggling in poverty silently, gays were in the closet and trans people were invisible.

Likely the reason largest single demographic in the party is elderly white evangelical men.

In many places one could vote with a piece of mail verifying residency until a black man won and the came voter ID, next came reducing voter times and registration periods, massive gerrymandering where the vote doesn’t even matter. What they did with SCOTUS should an independent observer what is the eventual goal is.

I didn’t ever expect them to so easily sell out all of their values though with the prior administration. Fiscal responsibility, integrity, family values, personal liberty, free speech, decorum, ethics, and policy have been exchanged for hate, trolling and anti-“woke” policies.

I think it’s going to get more extreme due to the way the primary process goes as they have less and less of a moderate base to appeal to.

Democrats are pushing some pretty extreme ideas but comparatively it isn’t even in the same realm especially when you look at actual policy and not what one or two members are doing.

 

OK, so you have used yourself as an example in opposition to 'brainwashed fools' who get college educations. A while back you started a thread in response to a massacre at a gay nightclub with this post (highlights mine):

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-a-gay-nightclub-in-colorado-springs.605770/

Just for my own clarity, is this an example of the kind of thinking comed from people who are not 'brainwashed fools'? Is complaining that murdering LGBTI people is bad because it gives them more attention the sort of thing that 'uneducated' people think is good? Personally I don't know anyone who would think that, but most of my social group are 'educated', so I'm curious to learn.

 

I would argue that those that actually believe a man can become a woman are far more brainwashed than my opinion would ever be. My opinion is definitely biased, I wouldn’t argue it as brainwashed at all.

 

In what way is the Republican Party irrelevant? Not for elections. If the GOP nominates Trump, he’s tied with Biden. Anything can happen there. Granted, there’s a long way to go before November 2024. But being tied with someone under indictment, facing a rape trial along with many other investigations and pending trials isn’t a good thing. What this may mean is people, especially independents who decide national election aren’t happy at all with the job Biden is doing. He’s currently at 39% job approval among independents. Not good.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html


DeSantis has a slight lead over Biden.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e.../general_election_desantis_vs_biden-7967.html



Those who will decide the 2024 presidential race, independents, 58% didn’t want Biden to run again for reelection, although 54% don’t want Trump either to run again. For independents, swing voters if this rematch occurs, they’ll be voting for the candidate they least want to lose, not win, but least want to lose as independents don’t or didn’t want neither one to become the next president. Much like the 2016 election when 54% of all independents disliked both Clinton and Trump not wanting neither one to become the next president. 8 million people voted against both major party candidates in 2016 by voting third party, could happen again or have even more than 8 million if it’s Biden vs. Trump.


https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/6jir2a8rbh/econTabReport.pdf



Then you have the senate elections where the Democrats have 8 seats at risk of switching vs. the Republicans none. They’re Michigan, Montana, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Ohio and West Virginia. In the house, the democrats currently have 23 at risk seats of switching vs. 19 for the Republicans.


Election wise, I would call the Republican Party irrelevant at all. Chances are 50-50 on the GOP gaining the presidency, better than 50-50 on the GOP taking control of the senate and 50-50 once again of the Republicans retaining control of the house. That in my book isn’t irrelevancy. At least when dealing with elections.


https://www.cookpolitical.com/

 

False:

What is the opposite of highly educated?

Lowly educated?
Lesser educated?
Poorly educated?


Yes. Poorly educated.

What he was saying was that they won across multiple demographics, and in order to not offend potentially less-than highly educated he followed up by saying "I love the poorly educated" with some characteristics about loyalty and common sense.


The media translated that into:

President Trump famously declared during his 2016 campaign that he loved the “poorly educated” because voters with lower levels of schooling delivered an overwhelming share of votes to him



From somebody that is a highly educated professional in the Engineering fields, teaching at the local Universities in Engineering Departments, and owns a professional firm.... some of the smartest people I know didn't go to college and some of the people with an astounding lack of common sense have doctorates.

 

Well that certainly answers my question. It really is fascinating how similar fanatics are across cultures. A moral universe where the existence of transgender people is more upsetting than their murder is generally something I would associate with places that are socially backward or dominated by religious fundamentalists - the Islamic world comes to mind. Turns out that proudly 'uneducated' Americans fit neatly into that world. I'm glad my apparent 'brainwashing' at the hands of colleges (because that is apparently how you become the sort of person who thinks killing LGBTI people is bad for reasons otgher than giving them more attention) means I have no place in such a world.

 

7 out of 8 last presidential elections, Majority American voted for Democrat Candidate. If that doesn’t speak volume nothing will.

Between 18-44 years old Americans, only 39% voted GOP in 2022 midterm election. These are the Age Group who will dictate US politics for next 40 years. These 18-44 years old American has no interest in GOP politics.





If you dig more you will find female voter reject GOP politics more then man.



i can go on and on and show you more data .. but you get the picture.
Majority Americans reject GOP politics. It's just matter of time Republican party will belong in Musim.

 

I know in conservative media, in conservative household at dinner table , making fun of Democrats that “ Democrats believe man can be woman”” ha ha ha , funny funny funny.

But back to Earth , none of us believe Man can be woman, and man can give birth.

As a Democrat, we believe it is;

Your freedom if you want to change your sexuality and became woman. It doesn’t matter if it is scientifically possible or not, but it is your personal choice and constitutional right to be who you are.

If you are a man , cut of your privet parts and then marry a woman, it is your FREEDOM and constitution right to make that decision.

If you are a man and want to marry another man, it is your freedom.

If you are a woman and want to marry a woman , it is your freedom.

I accept the fact that in 2023 Republicans wouldn’t understand or believe what it is to have “ personal freedom” and “government stay out personal choice” . In 2023 republican use slogan like “ smaller government” , Government stay out of my life” , “ Freedom, Freedom, USA, USA, USA , Freedom” ,

But in reality in 2023 Republican Government get into citizen’s panty and see what’s in there.

 

Has the Republican Party become irrelevant?

As has the very concept of a political party.

 

A lot depends on what you major in at a university. I've known people who majored in Education, English, Sociology, Anthropology, and other Liberal Arts stuff and when they get out in the real world, most of them are unable to support themselves, unless they can get a job teaching in public schools or something like that. But, I've never known anyone who majored in science-based areas, like Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, etc., who couldn't earn good money.

Sure, sometimes the corporation you work for has a big layoff or gets bought out by another company and lots of people lose their jobs when there's a reorganization, but if you're any good you can usually find another good job quickly, if you majored in something that really gave you a useful education. This doesn't apply to "trust fund babies" who don't need to work, but how many of those are there?

 

When I was in my late teens and 20s, I was a democrat and so was EVERY OTHER SINGLE PERSON I KNEW in that age group.
No limits on drugs, sex and rules and FREE EVERYTHING is an appealing concept to youngsters.
You have proved NOTHING accept that young folks will be young folks

 

Short answer, yes.

Long answer, also yes. Not that I think the democrats are the saviors of the world, but both parties (especially the GOP) are too stuck in the past and haven't bothered to evolve or change in any meaningful way, and they need to do that. People trash talk the GOP an awful lot these days, that's not for no reason, they earned it, particularly when they spend tons of time fighting about CRT, abortions, "wokeness" and other stuff.

 

Except he didn’t “win” with those voters
He “won” with the electoral college (which is the only relevant thing in our messed up electoral system)

He lost almost all of those voters to Hillary.
And then he lost them all again to Biden.

 

There you go. This is the ideology of One of The Major Political Party of World’s Oldest Democracy.

When people get old , they will be Republican.

Thank you again for proving my point that Republican party has nothing to offer in 21st century but hope that “ people will get old and became republican” .

 

Thanks for inserting fake words that I never said into your reply. I never said "they will become republicans". I find that kind of disingenuous. Younger people are more likely to be democrats. It has always been this way. When people have less responsibility, they tend to support the party that is less responsible.

 

Gen Y should already be showing signs of turning conservative — we are in our late twenties to early forties. That isn’t happening

Many have been riddled with debt from education, healthcare, transportation and housing far outpacing increases in wages.

Even inheritance is being stripped away due to costs associated with healthcare as well as retirement homes.

You can see this vacuum occurring by looking at the share of wealth each generation has and compare that to the wealth being accumulated at the very top that now owns over 50% of the total economic activity in the US. This has been done by conservative policy.

Gen Z is even more anti-conservative

 

Of course they are, thanks to social media brainwashing.