"Help, he's going to kill me!" Police don't show up after 911 call, woman killed

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two officers were suspended from their jobs after failing to respond to a 911 call. The woman who had made the call died.

    “He’s going to kill me!” she was screaming over the phone.

    The officers responded to the scene, but apparently never got out of their car outside the woman's home. (Perhaps it was too cold outside and there was nowhere to park?)

    This happened in New York City, of all places.

    “It’s messed up,” said family friend Victor Brown. “If they would have done something ahead of time, this wouldn’t have happened.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...oring-call-check-doomed-mom-article-1.3723790


    One NYPD source tried to defend the actions of the officers saying they received “incomplete information” when they were told to check on the caller. “The incomplete information may have caused a delay in the response,” the source said.

    So they may have been waiting in the car for a while, waiting for an update before they got out. But in the end they just decided they had been waiting long enough and drove off, thinking it probably wouldn't come to anything. More than likely they had already been called in to domestic disputes before and didn't want to have to listen and deal with another couple's problems.

    About an hour later, police were called to the home once again, after neighbors heard the woman's 2-year-old daughter screaming inside.

    Responding officers found the woman at the bottom of a basement staircase with bruises around her neck. She appeared to have been strangled, police said.

    On the day of the incident temperatures had dipped into the lower 20s.


    Thousands of 911 callers in Cleveland, Ohio, waited hours for help from police




    Sounds like that car dealership was in a bad area and the local police were overburdened trying to deal with all the crime.
     
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    Incomplete story, insufficient information, I know Crown Heights quite well, not such a bad area crimewise.
     
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    When I read the thread title I would literally have bet every penny I have that it would be somewhere in the UK.
     
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    Lots we are often left questions about such senarios depending on the reporting, bias and agenda, and the rush to publish.
    I don’t believe in just trusting a 911 response to begin with. Rather,

    http://abc13.com/news/listen-woman-shoots-burglar-while-on-911-call/296275/

    BTW, I noticed in your recounting some time ago of the home invasion you experienced where you asked the intruder to hold on, called 911, waited for a response...Lol. Is it, in God we trust, in 911 we trust, or in Glock we trust? I know where I place mine.
     
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    yeah, need more information, be nice if they wore cop cams, seems odd they would drive off if they had a address and not check it out
     
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    what, you don't trust God will protect you from crazy mad men with guns
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    No I don’t. I was given the gift of reason and figure I was expected to use it. As for the rest... God will sort it out in (His, Her, Or it’s) time or not.
     
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    same here
     
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    Luke
    36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

    38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
     
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    Actual N.Y.P.D. radio traffic;

    All units confines of the 62, 10-10 cries for help, New Utecht ave, check and advise,
    10-4 central, show unit SP-101 responding Citywide Detectives.......

    SP-101 to central, show 10-90 X-Ray unfounded......

    All units, all units, hold all traffic, 10-13 Officer down, all units responding, negative central, 19-90 X-Ray, unfounded......

    This happens all night long..

    All units, shots fired Red Hook projects,
    10-90 X-Ray Central, unfounded......

    All those calls were checked by units....
     
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    guys with purse's, on my
     
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    Teen Went to Apply for a Job, But She Never Came Home
    Chanel Petro-Nixon, 16, an honor student at Boys and Girls High School, left her home on Fulton Street, on the border of Crown Heights and Bedford-Stuyvesant, on Father's Day, June 18, 2006, telling her family that she was going to a nearby Applebee's restaurant to apply for a job. She never made it to the restaurant. Four days later, Petro-Nixon's body was found stuffed in a trash bag on Kingston Avenue, near the Brooklyn Children's Museum. She had been strangled. Missing were the pair of distinct pink-and-white Nike Air Jordan Retro 14 sneakers that she had been wearing when she left home. Cops appealed to the public for help, but to this day, the police continue to hunt for her killer...-> https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/crime-safety-report/brooklyn/crown-heights/


    Jul 29, 2017
    "NOISY NOISY neighborhood"
    Below Eastern Parkway, forget about it. There's noise assaults at every turn. Car alarms, sirens, parties, bad neighbors, forget about having any control over your life. Good access to parks and gardens but that stops being appealing when your home environment is a constant assault of noise and to get there you need to wade through a barrage of noise and unmaintained streets. Affordable, but for how long?...-> https://www.streetadvisor.com/crown-heights-brooklyn-new-york-city-new-york
     
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    I know I shouldn't laugh.


    People have been killed over Nike Air Jordan shoes before.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...ac0fd7f097e_story.html?utm_term=.8066eeabdec7

    'They could've killed him': Teen describes attack over Nike Air Jordans
    http://www.nbc4i.com/local-news/the...eaten-for-his-new-nike-air-jordans/1096299835

    1200 people killed each year over sneakers:
    https://qz.com/554784/1200-people-are-killed-each-year-over-sneakers/
     
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    Very true.
    Common enough in N.Y.C. to get robbed of sweaty stinky footwear.
    I could never understand it myself.
     
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    Ah... we need to ban sneakers or regulate and register them
     
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    I could never understand people buying them either,
    Air Jordan's made in third World Nations cheaply by undernourished underpaid children, and sold here for hundreds of Dollars.

    People winding up for blocks waiting to buy them.

    My thing when I was much younger, was to find really good and comfortable footwear at cheaper prices, not pay more money.

    I remember finding great quality running shoes for the astounding price of $14 around 40 years ago, and that was an incredible bargain....
     
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    Relatives of a murdered woman in Regina are suing the city's police force, saying officers took too long to respond to a 911 call from a neighbour who heard her screaming.

    Derek Kinna said he wonders if his mother, Janice Louise Kinna, could have survived the stabbing injuries inflicted by her boyfriend two years ago if police hadn't taken more than half an hour to show up.

    "What if they got there sooner?" Kinna asked. "What if they walked in there during the middle of the act and possibly had a chance to stop the bleeding?"​

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/regina-police-sued-after-911-call-fails-to-prevent-murder-1.601437


    Denver police officials blame their delayed response to a woman who was killed 12 minutes into a 911 call on a dispatcher who failed to relay information to officers about the gravity of the situation.

    Kristine Kirk, 44, pleaded in the 911 call for authorities to hurry and send officers April 14 because her husband had asked her to get a gun and shoot him. She said Richard Kirk, 47, was hallucinating and talking about the end of the world after eating marijuana-infused candy and taking pain pills, according to police reports.

    As the call continued, she frantically said her husband was getting a gun from a safe. Within a few seconds, the call-taker could hear her screaming. There was a single gunshot before the line went quiet.

    Responding officers were unaware of those critical details before they arrived, police said. The 911 call-taker entered notes about them into a computer, but the dispatcher, who passes the information to officers, never aired the details over the radio. She gave them initial information about the call but failed to update them for 13 minutes about the rising threat of violence.

    Despite the fact Kristine Kirk had clearly indicated her life was in "imminent danger", the responding officer only realized the seriousness of the call and summoned backup after looking at the call-taker's notes on a computer in his squad car, but by then, Kristine Kirk was no longer speaking.​

    https://www.policeone.com/investiga...-of-dispatch-communication-resulted-in-death/


    Brittany Zimmermann called 911, but no one came

    Madison police believe Brittany Zimmermann called 911 before she was stabbed and beaten to death inside her Doty Street apartment, but the 911 Center failed to send help after erroneously concluding the call was a mistake.

    The 21-year-old UW-Madison student's body, with multiple stab wounds to the chest and blunt force trauma to the head, was discovered at 1:08 p.m. on April 2 by Zimmermann's fiancé. The scene was such a mess that he initially believed Zimmermann had been shot.

    Zimmermann's murder is the fifth unsolved Madison homicide in the past 10 months. Two have occurred downtown, inside homes, during the day, apparently by strangers.

    The 911 Center received a call from Zimmermann before she was killed, did not dispatch police, and then did not immediately or accurately inform the Police Department about the call after cops found her body, law enforcement officials tell Isthmus.

    Sources suggest the center may have made a call-back to a wrong number, where the person who answered assured that no crisis was occurring. One source says cops might have been better situated to make a quick arrest had mistakes not been made by the 911 Center.​

    https://isthmus.com/news/news/brittany-zimmermann-called-911-but-no-one-came/


    Sheila Jones in Nashville called 911 to report her knife wielding ex-boyfriend breaking into the house threatening to kill her. After her first call went unanswered, Jones called back and got fantastic news. Officers had been dispatched, but another more important call came in, so they answered that first (unknown to her, it turned out to have been backup for an ordinary traffic stop). Jones made a third call after more than two hours had passed with no sign of help. After the call ended--but with tape still rolling--we hear the last damned thing you want to hear when you call 911..."I really just don't give a s(*)(*)t what happens to you."

    Sheila to 911: "Get the police here now. My life is threatened. Please God. Please God. Please God. Get me police over now. He's got a knife on me. My life threatened."

    "I felt danger, I felt threatened, and I felt fear. It was like I was seeing myself being dead that day," Sheila recalled. "I wanted help."

    For Sheila, hearing that call - obtained by NewsChannel 5 Investigates - resurrected the painful emotions of that day.

    Sheila: "Get out of my house."
    911: "Is he a boyfriend?"
    Sheila: "He's ex. Get out of my house. He's outside now. He just went outside."


    "Then what happened?" asked Phil.

    "Nothing," Sheila said.

    In fact, Sheila's 911 ordeal dragged on for almost three hours - through call after call.

    Sheila: "They just keep on saying they en route, they en route, but they ain't came. It's been a long time. And he keeps calling me, threatening me."

    So where was the officer? NewsChannel 5's investigation discovered he was out helping another officer on a traffic stop.

    Two-and-half-hours into the ordeal Sheila called again. This time, she was told there was no one assigned to answer her call.

    Sheila: "Nobody's coming out here?"
    911: "Yes, ma'am. As soon as the sergeant gets an officer available, he's gonna send somebody out there."
    Sheila: "What, do y'all want him to kill me - so you can put yellow tape around me and say we got there just for the death? Is that it? I don't understand."


    "It felt like I was a test subject. We're going to see how long it takes before he goes back and actually kills her - that's what I felt like," Sheila said.

    The worse part was what Sheila had not heard. The worst part was what the 911 call taker said after Sheila hung up the phone.

    Sheila: "I'm scared to even leave out my f(*)(*)(*)ing house."
    911: "OK, ma'am, I updated the call. We'll get somebody there as soon as possible."
    Sheila: [Hangs up.]
    911: "I really just don't give a s(*)(*)t what happens to you."

    https://web.archive.org/web/20080517141457/http://www.newschannel5.com:80/Global/story.asp?S=8312600


    911 operator falls asleep on the job, no one to answer emergency calls
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/911-dispatcher-falls-asleep_n_1538903.html


    A Cleveland police dispatcher was suspended for six days after she was caught sleeping on the job — and on emergency calls — in March.

    Steve Loomis, president of Cleveland's police union, defended Thomas. “Not excuses, but the reality is that she’s a single mom. She’s going to college full time, and she’s working 40, 50, sometimes 60 hours a week up there,” Loomis said, WJW-TV reported.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...spended-sleeping-9-1-1-call-article-1.3130671
     
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    Whats the problem? The cops ended their shift alive and well, and that's all that matters. Right?
     
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    That is what I was told in the Academy.

    Someone once quipped, "what about unarmed civilians sir ?
    Response: WTF said that ?
     

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