Hidden volcanoes melt Antarctic glaciers from below, study finds

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neither do your links show the changes made to show what they show. One of the tricks is to change the zero date starting where the simulation crosses the observation. If you move it up, you get a better match. Even your last link specifies that they do not capture everything. Here are some of the things they cannot or do not model. Rain, clouds (they cannot model clouds so use a generic input), ENSO, AMO, the Sun, and everything else they do not know. The fact of the matter is that the temperature deviated from the models and put the advocates in a tizzy. Now they try and explain away how they missed the hiatus but miss it they did. If that does not make you curious, nothing will.
     
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    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    There is no need to sway facts to the side of climate change. It is a fact. Also situation like what?


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    Did you delusions tell you that? Because you certainly didn't provide any evidence to back up those claims
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I read it, Im right.

    Yes, I know what a scientific law is. The Law of Gravity is a scientific law, proven correct by 10's of thousands of scientists over hundreds of years.

    Global warming is a bs theory, proven faulty hundreds of times, in a mere 2 decades.

    Get back to me when its proven correct and backed by sound experiments corroborating the hypothesis. Until that time, I see no reason to destroy the American economy.
     
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    Well that is because you are lying. Your statement is simply not true.

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    Nice link.

    It's absolutely true. I linked an extensive analysis on the prior page. Feel free to disprove any of the studies in it.
     
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    Yeah he is pulling from Tamino who is a fraud. He does his own little adjustments to realine his graphs and make them look like they are still in step when they are not. The man is a known fraud who lied about his academic qualifications.
     
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    Well obviously you didn't read it because in the study itself it says that warming oceans, not volcanic eruptions are the primary cause of Antarctic ice loss. Unless you think he went back in time and changed his paper after you posted a thread on it?

    Lern sum thing
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation


    Yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about. Surprise! There is no way you aren't a troll
     
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    Your link to the decietful would be Nazi's at SKS said this at the very end.

    That is a tricky way of saying that CO2 is lagging temperature. 90% of the record CO2 is rising as temperature is rising CO2 is falling as temperature is falling. Well no (*)(*)(*)(*). And 5% temperature is rising while CO2 is flat or falling and 5% temperature is falling while CO2 is flat or rising. This 5% is the lag.

    SKS are lying deceitful sons of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es. That quote you read was written with the intent of fooling useful idiots.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    no, its says theres deep water warming happening in the ocean. where do you think that warming comes from? the sun? carbon emissions?

    Nope, underwater volcanoes, the global warming tax enthusiasts conveniently forgot to mention where the heat was coming from..... figures....

    Gravity is a law, backed up by hundreds of years of experiments, including isaac newtons....

    Global warming has zero proof by comparison, only speculation and innuendos in an effort to raise taxes to fund the left handeds utopian wet dream.

    no thanks.
     
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    I have never stated anything regarding the inability of CO2 to absorb IR energy. I would like to see the experiment, which you don't have nor does anyone, that shows after absorbing the IR energy that the 120 PPM added since before the industrial period produces heat and drives temperatures up. Just show me that experiment. I don't know why that seems to be a difficult question for you to answer. You and yours are so all knowing in this.

    So, do you know how much IR is absorb in 120PPM or 380 PPM for that matter? And, does that IR energy convert to heat and how much? Where is the experiment?
     
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    there you go with the troll word. So, where have you been in all of the discussions? You come in late in the thread running accusations. Please stop with the word troll. You loose credibility that you barely already have.
     
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    From where he got it? Yep it does!
     
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    Wait, do you think that underwater volcanoes can cause all deep water warming?
     
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    Of course they do, it couldn't possibly be the sun, that's too obvious.
     
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    Did you even bother reading your own article? This isn't caused by some fire breathing volcano. This is water that has been trapped by a several million year old glacier. Every now and then it seeps out because the water is trapped. The red color is caused by microbes living off sulfur and iron in oxygen free water trapped beneath the ice. This red water then trickles over the glaciers end. The red stain is a result of where the iron comes in direct contact with the air. This is no volcano. This whole thread has been a joke; http://earthsky.org/earth/blood-falls-five-stories-high-seeps-from-an-antarctic-glacier
     
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    LOL, sure, scientists opinions are not evidence unless they are the opinions you want to believe. Got it. Evidence is also not evidence unless it is evidence that you want to believe. Check.
     
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    The Science And Politics Of Climate Change

    Lenaert Bengtsson

     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is caused by a volcano, its all salts
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was the prediction for Hurricanes and Global Warming?

    Here is the web archive of what SKS said previously.

    Here is what they say now.

    Now some facts.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...hange-infrastructure-weather-column/10257787/
     
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    Lol! Read your own article. Nothing is mentioned about volcanoes. It's all about water being trapped within a glacier.
     
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    [QUOTE=BestViewedWithCable;1063975008
     
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    Maybe you should read it.

     
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    No, you still do not get it. The volcano does not actually cause it. The original cause is the glacier that has the water trapped. Yes, the volcano heats the water underneath, thereby causing it to seep through the cracks into the lake. But the red color is not a result of volcanic heat. And the glacier forming a lake that is trapped is the actual cause. If it wasn't for the lake, there would be no water to heat. Not to mention it has nothing to do with global warming.
     
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    Ah, I forgot that ice only melts from water, not heat. Gotcha.
     
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