Hillary Clinton blames being a capitalist for losing the election.

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  1. DavidMK

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    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ist-probably-hurt-her-2016-election-prospects

    I mean there a bigger reasons like being the 2nd most hated person to ever seek the office but ya... Trump ain't no capitalist either and he is POTUS. Capitalism died not just in America but the world at large with the Great Recession. Aside from Germany I can't think of any functioning democracies that didn't see major electoral success by socialists and fascists at the expense of capitalist parties. The UK is under capitalist control only because the fascists lost momentum after their Brexit win. Even than a capitalist PM was more becuase the socialists didn't want to deal with the post-EU fallout than a resurgence in public faith in capitalist policy. I suspect the fascists will make a comeback (and a socialist Scotland will declare independence) in the UK once the political fallout settles.
     
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    Financial-political theories/parties/organizations have long lost political power and were not the harbringer to the Brexit movement.(And Britain will be/should be thankful for Brexit once it's finally completed. The EU hegemony is swallowing itself, with countries indebted to Berlin.)

    Fascism will indeed reclaim the hearts of the people around the world, because Fascism enables the freedom of humans by releasing them from the constraints of a 'civil government' controlled by corporatists, lobbyists and special interests.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about?

    Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
     
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    I don't care about people's interpretations of Fascism, because they haven't read literature such as the Doctrine of Fascism or other such literature. What they know of Fascism is less than .05%. IE: Nationalism, that's all they know.

    It is not suppression of opposition, but rather that opposition is not necessary in the Centralized State. Not only is it not necessary, it is not desirable, unlike democratic governments which promote civil conflict as a form of "government". We're experiencing that right now. The Framers originally went for a Republic, as a middle-ground which had far more limits on political powers, for precisely this reason. The Framers never wanted something so obtuse and self-serving as today's "Federal Government."

    Speaking of which, this Federal Government has completely failed its responsibilities and the States and the people therein are more divided than at any time since the Civil War. This is because States are forced to fund Federal Programs, and Washington's funds for the civic services are insufficient. Should this continue, inevitably the union will dissipate.

    One of the greatest misunderstandings of the Fascist Doctrine(the Third Position doctrine) is the approach taken by NS Germany, Fascist Italy in the 1930's. It was not "control" of the organizations, it was reorganization of the organizations. Which were insufficient and as self-serving as they are today. Instead of the various brokers, NS Germany for instance instituted a national union, and a collective bargaining between workers and employers. The result being much happier relations.

    Private Property was still very much respected, the mechanisms of the market were made to be more efficient by the Centralized State.

    There hasn't been such a program since, and while economists all wack their heads over the economic stagnation or the economic ebbs and flows, the solution of the 30's is there, waiting for someone with the balls to say: "Hey, make it more efficient through centralized government."

    And ultimately, let's be serious: You don't give a damn whether America's a Republic, a democracy or if I should succeed and make it a Fascist-Technocratic State. The only thing you care about, is whether or not you can coexist with the political regime.

    And the answer is yes. In fact, you'll be able to coexist with the regime much more fluently than you ever were with democracy, which used your taxes as a paycheck, used you to lobby them for political office and then disregarded your views.

    You'll thank me later, when this fraud called 'democracy' is put to an end.
     
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    What is this now, Hillary's reason # 89 why she lost ?
     
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