"HIV is a Gay Disease. Own It" !

Polydectes, you seem to just want to argue, bash, bully and flamebait. The article is a public service announcement about a serious health issue facing the male homosexual sex community.

Kindly stay in topic and discuss the post as it seems you are deliberately trying to derail the post and threads so you can get the post and thread politically cleansed, denying vital public health information of which puts male homosexuals at further risk. Access to health information from homosexual organizations to male homosexuals is a civil right that you should not be trying to deny. Remember homosexualist "ACT UP's slogan "Silence = Death!"

Thanks in advance.

 

The post I'm responding to is proof. You're arguing not to make your point but to fulfill the delusion that you have credibility.

You didn't quote my post, you intentionally delete names from other posts. It's obvious that it's in hopes that people don't respond to you.

How many of your silly little flamebait threads have been locked or deleted? Is it something like seven in the two or three days you've been posting?

The message that you are attempting to convey nobody believes. In fact the only people that really share your opinion are people that had it to begin with. So you are effectively doing nothing but good fit my side of the argument.

 

So since the original post referenced an ad campaign from a homosexual organization wherein they said that "HIV is a Gay Disease Own it", is it your opinion that these homosexual organizations and the homosexuals within it are lying and are homophobic? If so, state your case against them and list your sources and citations which prove them wrong.

 

Why don't you argue my point verses just attacking me? That's poor logic.

I have never heard of a "sex community." Such a thing doesn't exist so public service announcements to things that don't exist are of no service to any public.

You said it was a PSA. People don't really discuss PSAs to fictitious communities. So there was no topic to begin with by your own admission.

Am I? I don't recall attempting to shut down the cdc.

Yet another false accusation. Quite a bold one. Apparently you think I am God and can zap away things that you think I don't like with my mystical powers.

Please don't worship me and don't apply powers to me that I do not possess. I am no God.

I'm not. I don't have that power.

I just mock the editorial nonsense you use to soon information. It is a method for identifying misinformation.

 

Well the idea that you can only get HIV if you are homosexual is a rather dangerous lie.

The identity of the liar doesn't really matter. Nor do their political or philosophical associations. Only the truth.

Further I don't believe you when you say it's a "homosexual organization" saying this. You posted no link and your weird isn't reliable.

 

The original article and the homosexual organization that created it made a claim that only make homosexuals get HIV? Kindly cite where they claimed that so readers don't think you are using a disingenuous straw argument. When you find it in the original article and quote it, I will join you in arguing against it.

And it seems you are claiming that the L.A Gay and Lesbian Center is not a homosexual organization. Can you confirm that, and make your argument and cite your evidence and sources?

Here is their current more inclusive name and website: http://www.lalgbtcenter.org/

 

I have seen articles that Bigfoot exists and that the Easter bunny is real. An article existing about something doesn't automatically make it true nor does it make the source credible.

But honestly I didn't even see an article I saw your rantings. You failed to link the article. I wonder why that is?

Who are they? What part of that article did they right, where did you get it from?

You quoted an article without giving the author credit, that's plagiarism.

You should have posted at least the author's name instead of plagerizing it.

There it's nothing to argue except your dishonest and frankly ethical violations of discussion.

Academic dishonesty servers to undermine your credibility.

Is that who you plagiarized? I don't trust you. You have proven yourself untrustworthy. I need proof.

There is no argument to be made against intellectual and academic dishonesty.

I only feel I must point it out.

 

Is online Internet forums formal academic venues in your opinion? If so, what evidence and citations do you have to support that claim?

 

I was speaking to you- why have you never mentioned HIV and women?

You are the one who claimed that HIV is a 'gay disease'- yet roughly half of homosexuals in America half a smaller statistical likelihood of contracting HIV than straight women or straight men.

So why do you call HIV a 'gay disease'?

 

The ad campaign from the homosexual organization made the claim. According to Outproud,a homosexual organization, I read a quote from them in their forum when they had an America Online presence and they claimed that half of all male homosexuals in the USA will be HIV seropositive by age 50.

You're welcome to mention HIV and women....but like the homosexual organization, and quotes and cites in the OP, it would seem that awareness is best directed towards the group overwhelmingly afflicted with HIV and AIDS which is male homosexuals according to the CDC's Daily AIDS Summaries and HIV Surveillance Reports.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html

 

Okay Voc I'll go ahead and completely destroy you.

I googled the title if thus thread and what popped up first was the article you plagiarized from...can anybody guess...lifesitenews.com. a notoriously bigoted so called "news outlet" on the web. I saw duplicates of it on other such sites.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/top-gay-organization-comes-clean-hiv-is-a-gay-disease

So I know why you concealed the identity of the author. It's because you know lifesitenews.com is not trust worthy.

And the graphic you posted, I have seen it in other places shrunk down so tiny you only see the big words but skip the other language in it.

I'll go ahead in post that graphic for everyone to see.



For those of you who cannot see I'll type it out.

Yes the majority of people that have HIV in our country are indeed homosexual and bisexual men. But the numbers are really small.

Further the announcement said that nearly 75% of those infected ate gay and no men. That means 25%+ aren't. How would a person get a gay disease if they aren't gay?

I'm not saying there is not a problem. Obviously there is. But most gay and bi men aren't infected. Perhaps they ate smarter perhaps they are safer, whatever the case may be, they're gay and they don't have it and 25%+ of the infected people are not gay and they do have it.

Obviously it isn't a gay disease. This is really a point that needs to be made.

Further it's largely effecting younger people. Perhaps sexual education could be expanded to include safe gay sexual practices.

Again it's always the same group of people that want to stamp out education about it. Or they want education to inflict their propaganda upon students.

The mess is made thus is the way to clean it up. The anti gay crowd doesn't want it because as long as the instances of HIV are higher among gay and bi men they can justify their prejudice.

 

No it didn't. See post 61

They claimed rather clearly that "We know that HIV isn't just a gay disease,"

That's really quite the opposite of saying it's a gay disease.

 

No. I said nothing of the sort.

I said plagiarism is academic dishonesty. Nothing at all about venues.

This is a straw man fallacy.

 

Well, now that's odd, I found the ad campaign at a homosexual website. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2006/10/02/hiv-is-a-gay-disease-own-it-end-it/

Is it your contention that Pink News is a "notoriously bigoted" homosexual website? Or when The Body, an AIDS/HIV Resource Center referenced it, they were lying and are "notoriously bigoted" too?



When you say HIV affects younger people, isn't the truth you just concealed that it is younger MALE HOMOSEXUALS?

 

But you stole the article from lifesitenews.com.

No, but you didn't plagiarize them. You plagiarized lifesitenews.com. You also never referenced them. Remember you just stole intellectual marital. And are now attempting to pass out of ad something else.

You didn't reference or steal their intellectual property. You only did that to lifesitenews.com.

No, they may not even be homosexuals. They may just be experimenting. The nonsensical taboos we put on it and the ridiculous implications morons make of a young man or even a boy that explores his own sexuality is far more to blame than homosexuality.

 

Cite your sources with links in compliance with Rule 15 or concede you fabricate claims out of thin air

 

Says the flamebaiting plagiarist...

I see you are still lacking the integrity to answer "how is it possible for AIDS to be a gay disease when worldwide, more heterosexuals are infected than homosexuals."

 

It's your assertion, you prove it, and citations please or concede you're a serial violator of Rule 15.

 

You made the thread entitled "HIV is a Gay Disease. Own It" !, the assertion was yours.
How, if AIDS is a gay disease like you claim, can heterosexuals be infected in such large numbers?
Either you are saying that a large percent of the world is homosexual or your claim is a lie.

• According to WHO, an estimated 2.0 million individuals worldwide became newly infected with HIV in 2014. This includes over 220,000 children (<15 years). Most of these children live in sub-Saharan Africa and were infected by their HIV-positive mothers during pregnancy, childbirth or breastfeeding.
  
• The vast majority of people living with HIV are in low- and middle-income countries. According to WHO, sub-Saharan Africa is the most affected region, with 25.8 million people living with HIV in 2014. Sub-Saharan Africa accounts for almost 70 percent of the global total of new HIV infections.

 

The assertion was made in a homosexual organization's public service campaign. What a pathetic try at an impotent, intellectually dishonest straw argument.

 

You have implicitly stated the claim was made by the CDC which is false.
Your liveleak tactics don't seem to be very engaging. Everyone is sort of pointing and laughing at this point...

 

Liveleak does not engage in political cleansing or ignorant, heterophobic bigotry and viewpoint discrimination, so that is why I post there.

I never claimed the CDC stated that HIV is exclusively a male homosexual disease. Are you left with nothing but straw arguments? We will wait here while you go copy and paste where I stated that the CDC asserts that HIV and AIDS is exclusively a male homosexual disease.

When you can't find it, come back here and concede your intellectual dishonesty so we can all laugh at your claims.

 

STDs are a male disease. What that statistics actually demonstrate overall is that women should only have sex with other women. For children, they should use a sperm bank that tests specimens for STDs.

What would be safest is for men to be tested for STDs and then make deposits into a sperm bank. Then the man is castrated, which not only would prevent the spreading of STDs but also would significantly reduce violence and domestic abuse.

I gather that is what the OPer is advocating - whatever most reduces the spread of STDs - and failing to do so is evil and decadent.

 

PF simply has rules to promote civil discussion, none of which your flaimbait threads abide by. So far you have been shown to steal others articles as your own, provide no personal commentary, post threads in wrong sub-categories, lie, and insult the other members here.

You created a thread with the title as referenced above.
You stated

HIV is neither a male nor a homosexual disease, the CDC has never argued as such, instead they have argued for increased precaution for gay men as they are in a high risk category. It takes an absolutely brilliant person to steal an article then try to backpedal on the accusations levied.

 

Source citation needed for the above claim.