Honest invitation to the Conservative Right -- please, tell those on the Left what you REALLY want!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Pollycy, Jan 3, 2019.

  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sound like you have a problem with whites.
     
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    Typical lib response. Children of illegals currently have no right to citizenship....this has never been decided by the SC. It's funny how libs will say an unborn child has no right against its own abortion, yet they have a right to be born of illegals,,,,,legally. It's the dumbest argument ever.

    The welfare participant rates in border counties are well over 80%. I'd say there is plenty of local labor to be had.
     
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    Nice red herring we already have guest worker programs to address that issue and the process is increasingly mechanized in any case.
     
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    I've lived on the rez and every native American I know prefer living in the white man's world with toilet paper and being able to eat beef, pork and chickens that didn't exist before the Europeans arrived in America.

    They also remember their ancestors who had to hoof it on foot wherever they went before the Europeans turned them on to the horse.
     
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    I certainly have an issue with trying to maintain an ethnic makeup that was accomplished only by campaigns of ethnic cleansing and oppression carried out by whites.
     
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    The 14th Amendment very clearly states any person born in the US (with the exception of children of Ambassadors) is a US citizen. So yes, they do have that right.

    How many of those on welfare in border counties are illegals or the children of illegals that you plan would remove from America and couldn’t be used a workforce?
     
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    If you want to reduce the percentage of whites thats ethnic cleansing
     
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    The poster I was quoting wants to shut those down because they lead to guest workers overstaying their visas.
     
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    Move to South Africa then.....it sounds like your cup of tea. Before you pack your bags, remind me again of the color of the people in Africa that rounded up the people to be sold as slaves.
     
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    I think it means legal residents only and the unelected monkey asses on the SC have never said I’m wrong
     
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    Where are you guys getting this idiotic idea that anyone wants to turn back technology?
     
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    Not it isn’t unless America’s population becomes static, which it’s not. Proportional reduction of whites in the makeup of America because other ethnic groups grow is not ethnic cleansing of whites.
     
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    Considering the authors of the 14th Amendment used Vattel's and "Natural Law"...

    It is asked, whether the children born of citizens in a foreign country are citizens? The laws have decided this question in several countries, and their regulations must be followed. By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and cannot of itself furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has given him; I say “of itself,” for civil or political laws may, for particular reasons, ordain otherwise. But I suppose that the father has not entirely quitted his country in order to settle elsewhere. If he has fixed his abode in a foreign country, he is become a member of another society, at least as a perpetual inhabitant; and his children will be members of it also... -> https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/vattel-the-law-of-nations-lf-ed
     
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    And the whites in America were forced to buy them, right? The Africans put guns to Thomas Jefferson’s head and made him own slaves.
     
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    I think the government should treat each citizen fairly and without regard to race, gender, sexual preference, religion, or anything else.

    I want the Constitution adhered to and all of the extra stuff not enumerated in it to be left to the states or for an amendment to be voted on to change it.

    I want us to bring our soldiers home and only put them at risk in declared wars or in equal amounts to other countries when working with our allies.

    I want the attacks on religion to cease I do not care if it is Christian, Hindu, or Muslim we should be able to warship as we wish peacefully.

    I would like a Merit based Immigration system

    I would like be left alone to raise my children, go to work, and live my life.
     
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    No it clearly states everyone under the jurisdiction of the United States, which includes everyone in United States territory except ambassadors.
     
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    NO it does not, it says anyone born here AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THERE OF. THERE ARE 2 REQUIREMENTS, NOT ONE. FURTHERMORE, READ SECTION 5 OF SAID AMENDMENT.

    Then you can go read the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
     
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    Guest workers for those don't, they can't afford the cost of housing here but they live very nicely in Mexico.
     
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    Is your dream is quite useless in terms of helping your pet minorities

    Because they would still be minorites which I believeis not your intention at all
     
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    America didn't exist at that time. Let me educate you. British Colonists. Go pound sand to the Queen.
     
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    If the children of illegal immigrants are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States then they cannot be charged with any crime.
     
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    What about when Asians or other ethnicities have done the same ?

    One of the main reasons why nations have immigration laws is to protect the ethnic makeup of the nation.
    That is the responsibility of government.


    UNDER MEXICO'S IMMIGRATION LAW (GENERAL LAW ON POPULATION):

    • Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
    - Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
    - Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)
    - Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests,"
    when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37) -
    The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)
    • Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
    - Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)...

    -> http://andyswebtools.com/uploads/3941/Mexico_immigration_laws.pdf
     
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    Yep, America is going to be multi-ethnic state with no clear majority even if we have zero immigration barring the implementation of openly white supremacist laws.
     
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    Most whites did not own slaves

    Jefferson inherited his slaves

    I think if the founders were working from a clean sheet of paper instead of a 250 year practice they would not have began slavery
     
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    So Africans we’re putting guns to the heads of British colonists and forcing them to own slaves?
     

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