House Democrats have passed nearly 400 bills. Trump and Republicans are ignoring them.

The lone independent and democrats backed the investigation after republicans demanded they hold the investigation in public but then voted against allowed it at all.
Thus the investigation is bipartisan.

 

You want us to believe Republicans are all in on this dumb Investigation? It is not an investigation at all. Schiff announced the results first then put on this dog and pony show. So from now on all of our presidents are to be harassed using investigations as the tool It looks like to me. And Democrats will whine a lot when we do it back to them.

 

Democrats are following rules set by house republicans.
Republicans have been playing games since Obama was elected so exactly zero people will be surprised that y’all continue to do so.

Was it democrats that impeached Clinton against both the will of the people and against bipartisan support?
It’s cute you threaten that republicans in congress will suddenly be partisan hacks when they have always been partisan hacks.

Hope you enjoy playing by the same rules — this is just the beginning.

 

Actually Clinton was impeached using Democrats own rules. Clinton was fully investigated by a highly trained judge who was an important lawyer.
Democrats admit when this dog and pony show commenced, they changed the rules. So they in effect changed the democrats rules that Republicans had used so they doubled back on themselves.

Crimes or serious violations should not be handled by a public poll. I felt that way when Clinton made use of polls to try to evade justice.

 

No. I dont defend that. Show me where I did that ?

“Those who testified” ? We will never know because Trump refused to let them testify. Those that DID, to a man say it was a QPQ via Giuliani.

 

What rules did democrats admit to changing?

 

And that is that. We do not agree one bit.

 

The rules detailing how impeachments are handled.
https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/democrats-seize-advantages-proposed-impeachment-rules
House Democrats dealt themselves several advantages inside the rules for the public portion of the impeachment inquiry, which could have big implications for the speed and perceived fairness of the proceedings.

Under those rules, President Donald Trump’s lawyers couldn’t participate in the high-profile House Intelligence Committee hearings about the president’s dealings with Ukraine that are now central to the inquiry — and aren’t guaranteed a chance to later ask those witnesses questions or object to their testimony.

Republicans couldn’t force committee votes on subpoenas that House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler or Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff want to issue, a power given to both sides in the Clinton presidential impeachment.

 

The Republicans were extremely careful not to do an investigation of Clinton nor taint the investigation by Starr at all.

And it was the president, Bill Clinton that kicked the ball into action. Bill contacted his AG to seek a special prosecutor.

Trump has not called for himself to be investigated.
Democrats are using Congress as a tool.

Republicans waited on Starr
Schiff read the Mueller report yet is not using that report, but off on his own junket. And he is lying by saying Trump violated laws on his call to Zelensky.,

Let me nail down the difference. Republicans refused to play any role until Starr presented them with compelling guilt on 11 counts. Earlier I said 9 but there were actually 11.

Stated possible grounds for impeachment[edit]
Specifically, Starr reported:

There is substantial and credible information supporting the following eleven possible grounds for impeachment:

1. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil case when he denied a sexual affair, a sexual relationship, or sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.

2. President Clinton lied under oath to the grand jury about his sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.

3. In his civil deposition, to support his false statement about the sexual relationship, President Clinton also lied under oath about being alone with Ms. Lewinsky and about the many gifts exchanged between Ms. Lewinsky and him.

4. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Ms. Lewinsky concerning her involvement in the Jones case.

5. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth about their relationship by concealing gifts subpoenaed by Ms. Jones's attorneys.

6. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth of their relationship from the judicial process by a scheme that included the following means: (i) Both the President and Ms. Lewinsky understood that they would lie under oath in the Jones case about their sexual relationship; (ii) the President suggested to Ms. Lewinsky that she prepare an affidavit that, for the President's purposes, would memorialize her testimony under oath and could be used to prevent questioning of both of them about their relationship; (iii) Ms. Lewinsky signed and filed the false affidavit; (iv) the President used Ms. Lewinsky's false affidavit at his deposition in an attempt to head off questions about Ms. Lewinsky; and (v) when that failed, the President lied under oath at his civil deposition about the relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.

7. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice by helping Ms. Lewinsky obtain a job in New York at a time when she would have been a witness harmful to him were she to tell the truth in the Jones case.

8. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Vernon Jordan concerning Ms. Lewinsky's involvement in the Jones case.

9. The President improperly tampered with a potential witness by attempting to corruptly influence the testimony of his personal secretary, Betty Currie, in the days after his civil deposition.

10. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice during the grand jury investigation by refusing to testify for seven months and lying to senior White House aides with knowledge that they would relay the President's false statements to the grand jury – and did thereby deceive, obstruct, and impede the grand jury.

11. President Clinton abused his constitutional authority by (i) lying to the public and the Congress in January 1998 about his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky; (ii) promising at that time to cooperate fully with the grand jury investigation; (iii) later refusing six invitations to testify voluntarily to the grand jury; (iv) invoking Executive Privilege; (v) lying to the grand jury in August 1998; and (vi) lying again to the public and Congress on August 17, 1998 – all as part of an effort to hinder, impede, and deflect possible inquiry by the Congress of the United States.[8]

 

No, we have Nancy Pelosi to thank, for the overdue impeachment process (IMO they should have started this when the Mueller Report came out) and for some good legislation that would benefit Americans, but instead is sitting in McConnell's Senate graveyard.

 

She knows very well that with her poison pills, there is no way the Senate will agree. She pooped her own diapers.

 

If you aren't scolding, then look stuff up yourself if you want to know something.

 

I shall remember that at all times when you say things. I shall do your research for you and post it for you to use though it will be me doing your research.

 

Yeah, this is exactly what I mean. This is the kind of crap that some people on this forum will refer to as good bills, without giving any details. Yes, that is very honest and forthright.

 

Please turn off FOX NEWS

The House Intelligence Committee hearings were run exactly as the law calls for. Those hearings are like a Grand Jury, in that their sole purpose is to define if there is enough evidence to “go to trial”. It is at the “trial portion”, the House hearings, that Trump could call whomever he wanted to testify on his behalf. Instead, he choose NOT to allow anyone to testify on his behalf...I wonder why he did that....

It’s a COMPLETE LIE by the right to claim that they weren’t allowed to call witness’ for the defense. Just like they lied and are still living about not being allowed into the hearings, and people such as yourself are still repeating the lie. But ask yourself this....If they really wanted to “testify”, then why deny everyone they claim would exonerate them that were “on the call”, the right to testify?

And someone will have to explain how the POTUS has the power to stop pretty much anyone he deems, from testifying before the committees. How does he have that power ?

 

You will never get me to agree with the above comments. You may as well grab a beer and have a great day as to force me to eat that stuff.

When Clinton was impeached, the House had one task. Evaluate the Starr report and his 11 charges. They decided to pursue only 4 for impeachment. The trial in that case took place in the Senate. In this case the trial is taking place first in the House. No my friend, there are vast differences in how Clinton was impeached vs now. Democrats proceeded on the impeachment plan shortly after Trump was inaugurated.

Clinton had a huge team of lawyers to fight off Ken Starr. Against the house, my memory is hazy but Clinton called for the special prosecutor himself and it backfired on him.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Thank you for making my point for me. it is not the Democratic legislature that is blocking legislation, it is Trump. He is working through his catspaw, McConnell, just as Obama did sometimes through Reid, but it it Trump doing the blocking nonetheless. This accusation that the House Democrats are doing nothing and stalling needed legislation in favor of impeachment is revealed as yet another Republican canard by the worst Congress helping the worst President to damage the country more and more as time goes on

 

no problem. I see no relevance to what I posted to what you said.

 

Who on Gods green earth would pass the Drivel from Pelosi and create her laws? We do not want her laws.

 

You don't, but you want to continue the plutocratic tyranny that oppresses us now

 

Her laws add to your misery.

 

Lying Donnie just can't stop lying.

 

Never rely on a youtube video to explain a conspiracy theory.

 

I'm sure these have been bi-partisan Bill's right?

Not just the left wasting time thinking they can unilaterally write whatever they want into the bills?