House Republicans Impeach Mayorkas & They Make A Martyr Hero Mayorkas!

House Republicans impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas over the open border problem is a completely stupid move and is even worse than that because it will set a precedent that Congress can impeach Cabinet Secretary's over policy differences. Whatever Mayorkas did or did not do in regards to the border issue he was just implementing the policy of President Joe Biden, Full Stop, The Issue Is That Simple! What the hell are you Republicans doing you are going to make our government going forward more dysfunctional as Congress explores and pursues impeaching Cabinet officials in the future. This low standard for impeachment is going to come back to bite the Republicans big-time if Donald Trump wins the Presidency this year because if Democrats win the House and they very much might I think you have forty-nine House Republicans not standing (open seats are harder for possessing Party to hold onto) for reelection with this impeachment tool the Republican are creating the Democrats are going to tie the Trump administration into knots, they are going to paralyze a second Trump administration. A second Trump administration is going to try to shut down the border which anyone that believes in the rule of law knows you can't because these illegal immigrants have a right to asylum so once the Trump appointee makes this move even though the Court system will enjoin this move super quickly, the Secretary will have broken the law so the Democrats can impeach the Secretary and that will impede the Trump administration's effort to do things like mass deportation of illegal immigrants residing throughout the country as the Secretary's time will be full defending the impeachment. What anyone that really knows Trump knows that in his second term he is going to blow away all records in firing Federal government civil servants and federal employees under the auspices that he is saving America from the Deep State, this supposed bureaucracy that fights and ignores the officially elected President's administration and his appointees; if Democrats are on the ball during confirmation hearings they are going to get the cabinet and agency candidates to commit to not doing this government employee purge, the Deep State purge. Now once these Cabinet and Agency officials become installed Trump will go off his rocker that these appointees aren't doing the purge which will boost his reputation as a great Maga President that eliminated the Deep State (the fact that he is eliminating people with irreplaceable experience and talent and making the country weaker doesn't matter) and so Trump will turn the screws on these people and they will begin the purge. Once they cross that line pursuant to the Republican standard on impeachment they can be impeached for being dishonest to Congress they said they wouldn't do a purge but then they did! This will result in the Attorney General, the FBI director, the National Security Advisor being impeached. Further anyone that knows Trump knows the Affordable Care Act ain't surviving a Trump second term, Trump will instruct the Secretary of DHHS to not enforce the ACA mandates against the states let the states offer much cheaper health insurance the fact they do it by giving the shaft to people with a preexisting condition doesn't matter to Trump he campaigned on repealing Obamacare, he hates Obama, Obamacare is getting defacto repealed. Based on the Republican standard of impeachment once the Secretary begins disregarding provisions of the ACA that Secretary can be and will be impeached. Many more scenarios could be listed where Trump's cabinet and officials will not follow the law and pursuant to the new Republican standard an impeachment action will be triggered. If Republicans do this Mayorkas impeachment and Trump wins in November and the Democrats get the House the payback on impeachments will be epic it will make it into the history books!


It is really mind boggling how stupid the Republicans are in impeaching Mayorkas. To ordinary Americans they perceive this situation like this the House Republicans are impeaching Mayorkas for failing to do his job and allowing an open border but the House Republicans have the means to stop this open border and get control of the border in the Senate Bi-partisan Border Protection bill but have rejected it because they want to use the border issue as an election and the Republican presumptive Presidential nominee Trump conveyed his will to House Republicans not to give the Democrat presumptive nominee Joe Biden a legislative win this year which passing the bipartisan border bill would do. The Republicans with this impeachment move are just highlighting they are putting Party over country! House Republicans are dumb on another front if they impeach Mayorkas Senate Democrat Majority leader could make a big spectacle of his impeachment trial in the Senate and its been my observation that most Senators both Republicans and Democrats have a high regard for the rule of law which in the area requires that to have an impeachment the official has to have committed a high crime or misdemeanor which Mayorkas didn't, the real issue here is a policy difference and most Republican Senators recognize this. The results of a Senate trial could leave seventy-five Senators voting against impeachment and this would leave House Republicans looking really bad.

If the House Republicans impeach Mayorkas the underlying facts on the border issue will make the Republicans look real bad. I have heard that the Department under Mayorkas has turned away and deported more illegal immigrants at the border in three years than Trump did during his whole term. The country of Mexico has come out publicly and said that they are not accepting and will not in the future accept illegal immigrants with asylum claim for America back in their country to wait to have their asylum claim heard! If Mayorkas tried to shut down the Border, asylum advocates would run to the federal court and have that shut down enjoined within three weeks. In the beginning of this Impeach Mayorkas campaign I heard a lot of House Republicans claim Mayorkas lied to Congress when he said his Department has operational control of the border and so he must be impeached for this statement; members of Congress should have the highest regard for the law the way the law defines operational control is that it is an extremely high standard honestly if there are any people illegally emigrating to America through the nation's border the Department does not have operational control of the border meaning any Secretary in the last fifty years that made a representation that the U.S. government has operational control on the border lied since the President Ronald Reagan years immigrants have continually illegally entered America through our southern Border; selective impeachment is unfair and probably violates the U.S. Constitution.

 

I agree with the first part about them looking bad & precedents (especially precedents) but it appears you have a few things mixed up.
This low impeachment standard was introduced by the democrats. One might even call it "a precedent".
This witch hunt standard was set by the democrats. The bar is just gonna get lower and lower, this is nothing, but to try and blame Republicans for setting this low crappy precedent is laughable.

 

Wasn't it the Republicans who impeached Clinton for lying about a BJ?

 

Nope there were twelve count in the clinton impeachment document one of them was for perjury in a sworn deposition in the Paula Jones vs Bill Clinton Sexual Harassment trial.

 

Which was about lying about a consensual affair

 

this was Republican under Clinton

 

The republican attempt at impeaching lying Cuban-born Mayorkas was much-ado-about-nothing. But it made the republicans look good and feel good. Politicians are good at huffing and puffing.

 

First the senate bill is a joke. It is pretty much consists of a bribe to the Border patrol to get them to quit bitching, funding to the various NGOs that are actually funding much of the problem liberalizing asylum law, and hiring a bunch of liberal judges to speed up the asylum.
2nd Meanwhile there sits in the senate HR2 which actually is a border control bill. And would actually stop the flow of illegals across the border.

 

They looked like idiots doing it! Not as idiotic as trying to impeach for a made up non existent porn tape with make believe russian hookers, but still pretty idiotic

 

@JimfromPennsylvania

""as Congress explores and pursues impeaching Cabinet officials in the future.""
How soon we forget....And this has now become an issue of precedent AFTER a president was acquitted 2 X's for impeachment .... hhhhmmmmm....

I say we try impeaching Mayorkas and see what happens... I'm willing to take the gamble.

 

Which is lying in a sworn affadavit and is none the less perjury and none the less a crime for which other folks have been heavily fined and gone to Jail. And again that was only one of twelve counts.

 

and what was lied about was a consensual affair

we need to ask Trump how many consensual affairs he has had while married to his many wives when under oath

 

And as to the other 11 counts?

 

all having to do with lying about a consensual affair

 

No they were not. And lying under oath is still perjury and a crime.

 

yep, and we should ask Trump about his affairs under oath.... if he lies about any of them, we impeach

 

Correct. If we're really going to re-hash Clinton's impeachment, since the Senate aquitted him, and applying the current standards being bandied about, he didn't commit perjury.

How about that !

 

With this I disagree. While Clinton's affair may have been consensual, it was still unethical and an abuse of presidential power. Why? Because there was a power differential between Clinton and Lewinsky, with Clinton being her supervisor. While not punishable by law, these kind of affairs can end people's careers. If I, as a university professor, would have an affair with one of the students in my class, it would be a similar situation, I'd most likely be kicked out, and rightly so. Now, if Clinton's affair had been with anybody else who was not a sunordinate, it would have been no big deal.

In any case, I think the Dems in the Senate made a mistake protecting Clinton. He was in his second term anyway, they had nothing to gain. If they had kicked out Clinton, it might have spared us the Hillary-Trump matchup.

Similarly, the GOP made a mistake not kicking out Trump when they had the chance. He's going to destroy their party, just wait and see.

 

Interesting points for once though I obviously disagree with your assessment of Trump. Right now I think Trump is the last best hope to prevent this country from turning into a full on Euro style neofascist state.

 

Well, if it was such a nothing burger, why did Willy lie about it in the first place?
Instead of turning his steely gaze to the nation's camera and haughtily declaring; "I did not have sex with that woman" he should have turned his hang dog look to the nation's camera and sheepishly said; "Ok, I confess. Monica and I did a bit of the thing in the oval office, and I was wrong to do that. I'm a married man and I love my wife and daughter and did not contemplate the hurt I have caused them, or the dishonor I have brought to this office, and I sincerely apologize"

Well, he'd have had some blowback and Hillary would have done more than just black his eye (you heard about that, right?) but he wouldn't have had to deal with all the blowback that he used to justify lying UNDER OATH AS AN ATTORNEY WHO UNDERSTANDS THE SEVERITY OF HIS CRIME, LYING UNDER OATH.

 

totally disagree, Monica has made it very very clear it was consensual

now had he used his position to manipulate her into it, I would agree

a good watch....

 

I think, rather than a Euro style neofascist state, because of Biden's border policy we are getting closer to a Central or South American state, ie., a banana republic. Look how Spanish has already become half of our language. Look at our debt. We are on our way, Amigo. Viva La Biden.

 

why do most cheaters not want their wives or husbands to know

do you think Trump was honest with his wives about his affairs?

 

Trump wasn't being sued for sexual harassment, and filling out an affidavit in loo of being present at the trial. Again no matter how many excuses you make Clinton perjured himself.

 

they could have brought it up in the sexual harassment civil case - or the Stormy case