How a Conservative Activist Invented the Conflict Over Critical Race Theory

Would you fight and die for me to have that right? Or would use you the force of government arms to remove that choice from me? From what I can see most liberals are willing and able to use "any any means necessary" to force their worldview into public schools in conservative neighborhoods against the will of the taxpayers of those communities.

 

The "government" is of the people, by the people and for the people. We are a democratic, republic that is self governed via representation. I question the true patriotism of those who seek to divide the country into "liberals" and "conservatives," especially when they know little of each.

 

On a federal level, we are nation governed by billionaire puppets for the benefit of billionaires. On a local level, our representatives have to represent the interests of the community they govern or they will be removed from office/power. The left supports unaccountable billionaires dictating how the children of local communities are educated without regard to the wishes of that local community. Given that the left supports this kind of fascism, how in the world do you expect conservatives to care what progressives "question"?

Pro-tip: If you can make people say what you want at the point of a government gun, you are not winning in the marketplace of ideas, you are simply proving that might makes right.

 

Most education is handled at the state and local level. If you don't like the Feds, don't take their money. The government is forcing state and local schools to teach CRT at the point of a gun? Are you crazy? And, "liberals" want to increase the taxation on billionaires...so the latter aren't doing such a great job of controlling them .

 

Well, the left is certainly making great strides to separate themselves from the race war they created.

 

What utter nonsense. Let me tell you one thing: Tucker Carlson is NOT the person to try to learn critical race theory from.

Right wingers in this forum have convinced me that Critical Race Theory should be mandatory part of every school curriculum starting in elementary school. Because it's obvious that the ignorance about what the problems with ethnic relation are is rampant.

 

If you're going to claim that it is, YOU do your research. Read my sig! I do my research. I don't do your research for you.

And always keep in mind: if you're going to parrot Tucker Carlson, or Alex Jones, or... anybody else from the white supremacist echo chamber, keep doing like you do now: never provide quotes, never reference scientific sources and, for heaven's sake, never reveal your sources or the fact that they are known white supremacist talking points and have no basis on any science.

Oh... and, of course, when all else fails remember: attack science! That never fails right-wingers seeking self-gratification, but not facts.

 

You forgot to include what comes after "because....". In this case, it's probably something like "... because Tucker Carlson (or somebody in his echo chamber) told me so".

You're welcome. I'm happy to complete your incomplete sentences.

They have also demonstrated that you won't tell us what you think it is. Which means one of two things: either you just repeat the "echo chamber's" talking points, without bothering to verify; or you do know what it actually is, so you understand that going into what it really is would ruin your pre-fabricated talking points.

 

Huh? The Spanish and Portuguese weren't white?

In any case, who brought slaves here doesn't change the outcome much. But... sure... you can never learn too much history, I guess. I mean, looks like there are people who don't even know that the Spanish and Portuguese who colonized this continent were ALL white.

Of course! And your question is valid. For example, where is the outcry from Republicans about Trump having tortured children by enacting a policy to separate them from their parents with no plan or intention whatsoever of ever reuniting them? I think that is probably the most atrocious act of racism the government has perpetuated in our territory this century.

Here you completely do away with history, reality, facts and logic...

Marxists???? The Nazis used the handbook of their most hated enemy? What handbook? Please quote! You won't, of course. Because then you'd have to admit that your source was actually some wingnut white supremacist like Tucker Carlson, or Hannity, or... somebody from the "white supremacist Echo Chamber"

Looks like your method for avoiding being refuted is to compress so much nonsense in one paragraph that the other person will just think to themselves "why bother?".

 

Quote it! Quote a recent (say... within the last 20 years) scientific definition with references of what "racisim" means.

You won't, of course. But this might serve as a lesson to you that before accusing somebody of not knowing what the scientific basic for racism, you need to be prepared for this challenge.

 

Federal government controls federal funded education. That is not either surprise nor opprobrium. The problem with communist countries is not that the government funded education. It's that they taught falsehoods. So you can come back to us when you can show some explicit falsehood that the federal government is demanding be taught.

And please... don't just say something you heard from Hannity or Tucker Carlson (or the likes).... show REFERENCES. And show that it's a falsehood also with objective references. The white supremacist echo-chamber will not do.

That's probably too many requirements for you, right? Which means you won't. So thanks for playing!

 

Those kids will grow up and more people will force this on your grandchildren. The attitude of 'you do you' is the reason the authoritarian left is spreading so much. We need to be more aggressive in defeating Social Authoritarianism.

 

This is absurd... Being that you were the one bringing up the 'scientific definition of racism' as if such a thing existed and it was being taught by CRT.

I mean, that was exactly the point he was making to you

 

I request a quote, and your response is "This absurd.." and no quote.

My case is made.

I have no idea what you mean by "being taught by CRT". If somebody is teaching CRT and not teaching the scientific definition, you have all the right to complain. But then you would need to show a reference (which you won't)

I have opened no less than three or maybe four threads on this topic in this forum explaining what racism is (including definitions in anthropology, and debunking the concept of "race" as if it were an element of racism). But let me ask you, if I do the legwork for you and show you the links, will you admit that there is, and it has nothing to do with the nonsense the "Tucker Carlson Echo Chamber" has been repeating in this thread?

You could also look up "racism" in the search box and using "Golem" as filter. on your own But if my doing that work serves no purpose, why should I waste my time?

 

Then you don't know what CRT is and you're just regurgitating leftist talking points without even knowing what you're arguing about, as per usual.

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

Critical race theory is an academic framework centered on the idea that racism is systemic, and not just demonstrated by individual people with prejudices. The theory holds that racial inequality is woven into legal systems and negatively affects people of color in their schools, doctors’ offices, the criminal justice system and countless other parts of life.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/29/critical-race-theory-bans-schools/

An outgrowth of the European Marxist school of critical theory, critical race theory is an academic movement which seeks to link racism, race, and power. Unlike the Civil Rights movement, which sought to work within the structures of American democracy, critical race theorists challenge the very foundations of the liberal order, such as rationalism, constitutional law, and legal reasoning. Critical race theorists argue that American social life, political structures, and economic systems are founded upon race, which (in their view) is a social construct.
https://criticalrace.org/what-is-critical-race-theory/

Only a true racist would support such idiocy.

 

As you can see, once you start quoting things, none of the nonsense that Tucker Carlson puts in you brain holds.

Which, in case you forgot, is this nonsense...

A piece of advice: when you make dumb statements like the above, don't wait for me to call you out because you repeat senseless wingnut talking points. Pre-empt my response by providing quotes.

 

I don't watch Tucker Carlson so if that is your only source, you mush watch him all the time. I guess you know more than the thousands of black and white families screaming at school boards all over this country and the teachers who are exposing it for what it is.

Teaching kids that all blacks are oppressed and all whites are privileged. I'm sure you are for it. Not surprising.

If you could find a single quote to use stating something different, you would have. But I know why someone like you would fight for it.

 

Seems to me that Critical Race Theory has become code. Kind of like how BLM has. One does not have to discuss American policing practices, when one can falsely condemn a movement for what it is not. The folks at BLM talk about systemic racism in policing in the US, and Republicans talk about socialism/communism and Venezuela. Has not that been the message coming out of the right. It isn’t the police who are at fault. Even though we have plenty of video evidence to the contrary. Who would have thought that it would be surveillance cameras and smart phone cameras that would do in the police state. It isn’t the fault of the police, or the system. The fault lies with the Blacks. If only they acted the way conservatives would prefer. Quiet little second class citizens who do what they are told.


Kind of an irony in all this, is that the modern Republican crazy train began as a reaction to the influence of Blacks and hippies in the sixties. The drug wars were specifically designed to do harm to the Black and hippie communities. However, hippies tended to be idealistic upper middle class college students intent on changing the world for the better. Hippies eventually cut their hair and donned business attire and began to change the world, from the inside. Since the sixties the lives of Blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, homosexuals, and other marginalized groups have been mainstreamed under the banner of hippie idealism. From the Trump to the insurrectionists, such progress has not been appreciated.

As the Republican/Russian dirty tricks and misinformation machines kept building in momentum, it has been big tech, much of it founded by hippies, that has been the major force fighting back. Even more irony, is that the modern Republican misinformation campaign runs on hippie/liberal created technologies. That is, Republicans and conservatives can only bash liberals in such a widespread manner, because of the technology created primarily by liberals.

 

Pick a conservative pundit. They all say kind of the same thing.

 

Are not all critical theories more intellectual than practical? In this sense the word critical denotes a detailed analysis, an intellectual pursuit. In America, race has always played a central role. Everyone who has studied the history and geography of America is well aware of the role race has played.

The critical theory that always holds, and has a sound scientifically based foundation is Critical Mass Theory. Better known as the tipping point, or the straw that broke the camels back. BLM sentiments have been growing for years. Last year it reached critical mass and the people poured into the streets.

 

I've heard snippets of CRT on MSNBC for I think 2 years now. I know hardly anything of the framework of the theory, but I intend to find out. Because I have heard the theory's proponents talking in a blatantly racist way on multiple occasions.

 

I didn’t forget anything , you simply projected your own tendencies to listen to talking heads over reason onto me.
But notice you didn’t refute anything, you simply projected. Yet crt remains something you clearly don’t understand, it’s inherently racist and blatantly false propaganda.

 

I have done my research, and that is why I know you haven’t. You should take the time to learn what you have such an emotional attachment to you. It’s your job to be informed, not mine to inform you.

and this is how I know you are raging instead of being rational. You call me racist lol. You have no argument, you don’t have facts or education on your side so you call me racist lol.

I humbly suggest you learn what science is because you clearly are just parroting people you think talk fast lol. And no one is attacking science lol, this delusion is so predictable lmao. Just make up strawman so you don’t have to actually debate facts, the leftie way lol.

you have some top notch projection going on lol

 

Joy Reid mopped the floor with Christopher Rufo a few days ago. It was a pleasure to watch.
Rufo is nothing but an opportunist. His job is to turn CRT into a weapon to use against Democrats/liberals, in the 2022 and 2024 elections.

 

LoL... as if mob rule is a good thing. In 1994, Hutu gangs reached their tipping point, or the straw that broke the camel's back. Anti-Tutsi sentiments had been growing for years. In 1994 it reached critical mass and the Hutus poured into the streets.... and slaughtered over a million Tutsis.

Bottom line: Angry mobs are rarely an accurate barometer of the good or the moral. If so, January 4th would be celebrated by the left instead of reviled.