How a Cover-Up Works

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  1. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Let's see what the new batch of anti-semite crazy has cooked up for us today

    Yep, it's definitely not that you're incompetent. It's that all of us "de bunkos" (whatever the hell that means) are out to get you by ruining your pathetic youboob links, and anti-semite sources. Like we've been doing that here in the past. I hope they work so that I can destroy them with fact. No one cares if you "think" people are out to get you, this is just another pathetic truther tactic to demonize your opposites so that your inability comes across as mischievous.

    I'll save you and all the "readers" the time, it's not true. The "pods" were the housing for the landing gear. I don't need to provide a source for this as any one of you can type "pod ripple effect 9/11" into google and find the information out for yourself. If you are incapable to handle that, let me know. I have about 60 sources to debunk that crap, just the thought is garbage. What would the point of it be? Why would they fly military planes into a building instead of just using 757\767? How would that help the government, or anyone for that matter? Military planes are more expensive, and the planes were viewed in front of millions. We watched the second plane fly into the WTC live, anyone believing it wasn't a 767 is either a moron or blind.

    So what you're saying here is that "disinformation agents" say things, truthers are too dumb to do any research\educate themselves, then the "disinformation agents" debunk the things they said in the first place? Wouldn't that make them round-a-bout information agents? There is no need to discredit truthers, the fact that they are not intelligent enough to debunk the information in the first place shows they have no credibility in the first place.

    This is what we refer to as a double standard. One of your primary arguments is that you don't have an explanation for what each and every explosion is that took place in the WTC. Now you are saying that, in regards to the truth movement, there is no expectation of complete knowledge. How is it that you can have it both ways? You have no proven even CLOSE that the "zionists" were behind 9/11, you have nothing more than conjecture, and now you're moving on to double standards. All you're saying is, "nevermind the fact that we don't have explanations for what we say, just know that we are right when we say it." Save it Holston, no one's buying.

    So the fact that it's been 11 years since it happened, you guys are still so horrible at getting information out that it hasn't reached enough people? Richard Gage tours the WORLD, not just the U.S.A., the WORLD and spews his garbage. He has pushed it on millions of people who just walk away shaking their head. The rest can be paraphrased as, "I have all the infoz, if you want to be super duper smart like me than listen to what I say and believe my garbage." For being a truther these sure do sound like cult tactics.


    You like that link because it says Jews performed 9/11. Any website named "800 pound gorilla" has to be factual right? Get real.



    Haha blatant lie. The WTC had it's own internal security run by a man named John O'Neill. He died on 9/11 in case your curious. Top notch research again Holston.

    You are just horrible at this aren't you? According to sources

    It doesn't look like he ran it at all, not that it's relevant since I already showed you were lying about Kroll running the security. In fact, Kroll doesn't even run security do they Holston? They study biological terrorism attacks. Nothing you have posted has been factual. None of it.

    You mean, almost as moronic as making assertions that are clearly false.
    You mean, almost as moronic as not doing any research for ones self and just believe the crap spewed at websites like "800 pound gorilla" and "whatreallyhappened"
    You mean, almost as moronic as getting your "evidence" debunked time, and time again, yet still rehashing it constantly.

    In fact, this is in direct contrast to what you had previously said. In another thread you stated that Marvin Bush was in charge of security. What's the matter Holston? Can't keep your lies straight anymore?

    You crack me up, you have no idea what's going on. 2 things. Firstly, NORAD has changed it's policies and focuses since 9/11. Secondly, the airspace for North America covers a lot of ground. Including that huge ocean, which is where they thought any threat would come from. Flying over from Russia. LoL, grade school stuff.

    Yeah, and he was right with that quote. At least partially.

    Close muffin, the FAA actually contacts NORAD or NEADS with the information related to what is going on. At that time those two outfits would make the decision to scramble.

    I am just doing this for the "reader" to verify that you ARE a liar. You can't do basic research for any of the "facts" you try to present. Much of this information has been proven to be bull(*)(*)(*)(*) several times over, and you ignorantly come back spouting it constantly.

    Get real Holston.

    No, you just described truthers too a T. In fact, you stole that quote from me. I said that about truthers not too long ago, you can't even come up with your own sayings. Wow.
     
  2. holston

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_%26_McLennan

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._O%27Neill
    O'Neill was one of those people who was trying to report on the activity of the alleged hijackers. His reports were being ignored and dismissed. But he was adamant about it and that was why he was "pushed" out of the FBI.

    How "lucky" it was for his career that he was then offered the job of heading security in the WTC buildings.

    But unlike "lucky" Larry and associates he did not have a doctors appointment that day nor was he called away on other business.

    Either you guys are getting the difference in the owners of Kroll Associates mixed up with it's employees or you are deliberately trying to mislead the readers into thinking that I don't know whereof I speak. No I can't tell you what his shoe size is or which hospital he was born in. But many things are neither here nor there.

    The thing you really need to focus on is the big picture and the essential FACTS. For example, the FACT that all three of these building collapses bore the exact resemblance to controlled demolitions, that many Mossad agents were caught red handed in the vicinity, some in vans loaded with explosives, and that the proprietors of the WTC buildings were the only possible suspects who had the means and the motive to pull off an operation this size, and that US and Israeli spies within the US knew in advance that the attacks were going to occur.

    A denial of any of these FACTS listed above is an indication of one of three possibilities, 1. gross ignorance of the FACTS
    2. an inability to reason clearly combined with a reluctance to face reality or 3. a deliberate liar.

    In the case of the magpies on this thread I would have to go with number 3 because they have been exposed to the facts and still deny them. They have no excuse.




    I'm sure that between the lot of you, you will be able to find some more obscure facts that I am unaware of to point out. Perhaps you could check for spelling or grammatic errors to prate about. After all your object is not really to find the truth, nor even to convey it, but rather to ridicule and discredit anyone who is either searching for it or who is willing to bring some portion of it to the table, despite your cackling.


    O'Neill started his new job at the World Trade Center on August 23, 2001, 19 days before the attacks. He was appointed by Kroll Associates, namely by the managing director Jerome Hauer.
     
  3. holston

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    http://911tenyears.blogspot.com/2011_09_01_archive.html
    Almost as soon as the event was over these regulations were reverted.

    THAT is what you call a LIE!
     
  4. holston

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    http://911tenyears.blogspot.com/2011_09_01_archive.html



    You can give these clowns a list a mile long and they'll insist it has to be two miles long to qualify.

    And with ALL this kind of stuff available, they still claim to see no reason to be "suspicious".

    Note that these same people who demand to have someone step forward and say "I did it." would never so much as asked to see Osama Bin Laden's body!

    It's as though that all those SEALS couldn't have dragged a sick ol' man who needed dialysis to live on board a helicopter in order to bring him back to stand trail. Or that they could not imagine what good that would do considering the amount of information that could be extracted from him that would be useful in their "war on terror"!

    HELL FIRE. What were they thinking?

    You don't suppose that having Bin Laden tell the whole story about how they managed to pull off the greatest caper of the century would put a lot of these "suspicions" to rest? HELL NO. They want them to continue, right? What else would these magpies and De Bunko Hyenas have to do to earn their pay?

    You guys sure are stupid to think you are so smart.
     
  5. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Since I've already shown you're a liar, care to provide any evidence for that? Got any proof he said anything? No? Didn't think so, more conjecture.

    He wasn't offered it, he applied for it.

    Haha more "lucky larry" crap huh?

    Uhm, I am not confused about anything. I showed you direct evidence that your accusations are bull(*)(*)(*)(*). YOU are trying to deliberately mislead "readers" into thinking Jews were behind 9/11. I have shown you DON'T know anything about who owned Kroll, and furthermore, that Kroll wasn't even a security firm. In fact, they had absolutely nothing to do with anything related to 9/11. You have absolutely no evidence stating otherwise. You don't know whereof you speak, obviously, or you are lying. Take your pick.

    Absolutely, when will you present some?

    Just that statement is nonsensical. The twins collapsed from the top down, and the 7 had a column that collapsed. They didn't even resemble each other, but now you're insinuating that they both resembled demolitions? How can that be when they contradict themselves? Sounds like you're making things up.

    No, there was no van full of explosives, that has been debunked and you know it. You are lying Holston, anyone can see that.

    Evidence? Anyone? Bueller? I didn't think. Silverstien lost over 3 billion on this, they had no motive. There was no one that was able to pull off an operation of this size under the conditions you speak of, you have no evidence to the contrary. You're lying again Holston.

    No, I used sources and factual information to debunk them. Trying to push these facts listed above is proof of blatant lying, and display of being a snake oil salesman. You're lying holston.

    You mean like pretending there were vans displaying the WTC blowing up? There is definitely someone that is reluctant to face reality.

    You got it! You're a deliberate liar. You prove it by not contesting any of the evidence, repeatedly posting the same crap, openly lying in the fact of evidence, etc, etc. You're lying again Holston.

    Then what's your excuse? I have provided the evidence several times and you have fled from it every time. You haven't confronted any of the evidence provided, you run like a child every time.

    Another blatant lie, I take each and every one of your "facts" and refute it with actual evidence. I don't point out obscure things you missed, I point out glaring truths that you deny. You're lying again Holston.

    Which is a lie, that's why you don't use a source. You are just saying this with no evidence to back it up. I provided sources, and information as to exactly what these men did. Also, before you didn't even mention O'Neill until I brought him up. You said that Hauer and Kroll ran it. I proved that Kroll had nothing to do with the WTC complex at all, and that O'Neill worked for the port authority. You are lying again Holston.
     
  6. holston

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    I have an Uncle who is foreman who operates a crane. One of the workers called him a liar one time. That's was the one and only time he did so.

    I'm not nearly so touchy as my Uncle. Still there is a limit to how much of that I would take.
     
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    Empty, veiled threats. You lie repeatedly.

    Tell your 'uncle' I said so.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    2004?

    Seriously?
     
  9. holston

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    How do you know?

    You're saying the one time he missed his regular breakfast and his children avoided the place on 9/1 wasn't "lucky"?

    You're saying that the Jew judge awarding him double indemnity wasn't "lucky"?

    You're saying that buying the buildings so close to the incident after having made sure that the buildings were heavily insured for terrorist attacks wasn't lucky?

    You're the one that's full of crap.




    Kroll was a man dummy. So how can you show "it" wasn't a security firm? The FACTS speak for themselves.

    http://www.kroll.com/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroll_Inc.
    I just did. Look at it.


    Man you really are ignorant. Controlled demolitions can be done a number of ways. Top down or bottom up are two of them.

    Oh really?

    http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIRMO91Qrj8A.Eb7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBvcXNvNnBqBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjEzMw--?p=van+explosives+9%2F11&vid=f6a9da42f948edb91e352ad85db740d2&l=1%3A05&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4738775678189578%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDKbTFw9fs7w&tit=9-11+Mysterious+Van+Full+of+Explosives&c=6&sigr=11aco2p0f&&tt=b

    Is that right? You are his accountant I suppose?

    Then show us his books.

    Until that time I will go on the assumption that Mr Silverstein is far from the poor house, and isn't stupid either.

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/owners.html
    Now why would anyone want to cast aspersions on this humble businessman?

    Nay. Nothing suspicious about that.


    You're getting ridiculous.



    http://viewzone.com/whitevan.html

    You will discover a common theme running throughout De Bunko web sites. First are reports of the initial story. Then come a spate of conflicting reports. (easily manufactured). These additional reports suggest confusion over the initial reports.
    Statements made by initial witnesses are later said to be retracted or they are modified in ways which detract from what they were purported to be at first.

    All of this apparent "confusion" over where the vans were, what were in the vans, who drove the vans etc, all follow
    an initial report which originally indicates explosives and Israelis. The appendices to these stories at a minimum are intended to cast doubt on the original, even if the news was announced nationally where the report could not possibly be denied.

    But because of the alterations done later on, the public is expected to disregard them altogether or dismiss them as pure hearsay. But is it coincidental that in every such case the original news would be that which indicated the involvement of Israels or would lead one to suspect an "inside job"?

    Therefore one could just as easily interpret all of this reconfiguration going on as an indication of people higher up the chain of command issuing orders that would amount to damage control.





    How many times do we have to go through this. You say that I am the liar and I say that YOU are a LIAR!

    Why can't you just state what you contend is the lie and then show this "proof" you always say you have which demonstrates it to be a lie?

    Are you lazy or do you just not have anything?

    You're getting sloppier and sloppier.


    So you have said over and over ad nauseum. Can't you do any better?


    How do you expect people to take you seriously?

    Do you not understand that when you are this obvious about what you are doing, that any reader does not have to be all that astute to see PLAINLY that you are lying?

    When they do, it is YOUR credibility that is shot.

    With me, you lost it very early on. This type of blatant dishonesty only serves to strengthen my convictions because it shows the extent to which you will go to hide your a$$.

    My only hope here is that any reader will see it as plainly as I do and henceforth will not give credence to any Bunko, whether he is a pseudo intellectual from JREF or possibly just a pimple faced kid with nothing better to do than try to yank people's chains on forums like these. Don't you have any video games to play or are you worn out with Donkey Kong?

    Bottom line. The insurance battles were protracted and hard fought. Silverstein prevailed and made a profit, lies notwithstanding. That was all part of the plan. He's a gangster and everyone knows it.

    But all of that is not the real point. The point is that the WTC attacks were expected by some in the US and facilitated by others.
     
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    I don't need to tell my Uncle anything. But what I said earlier could just as well apply to you as anyone else. I will only take so much abuse. You can type what you want to on the internet. That's a far cry from saying it to my face. If anyone doubts my words they are free to test them anytime. I always do my best to deliver on my promises. I control my actions, not you.



    They say "All's fair in love and war." All that boils down to is that people are free to sin, including theft and murder. God has given us that option and practically everyone seizes upon it at some point in time, some worse than others. Not all of us have the stomach to carry it as far as others. You might also say that some of us lack the good sense to know when they should repent. You may be one of those.

    While you people may think that I am picking on the Jews or poor Mr Silverstein, it isn't that at all. I've already told you. You just refuse to listen. When it gets right down to it, it is no skin off my nose how often you lie or what you lie about. With me, it's just this thing about some people's willingness to commit bloody murder and think nothing of it.

    If I had to kill a thing in order to survive, I don't think I would take any great delight in making it suffer in the process. But my tendency to want to spare living things needless suffering shouldn't be construed to mean that I don't belief in proper retribution. Justice may well require a certain amount of unpleasantness be experienced otherwise it wouldn't be called punishment.

    But just imagine if you can being faced with the prospect of having to fall that distance to one's death or be suffocated or burned to death.

    Can putting someone in this position be justified even in the name of preserving greater Israel or "securing her realm"?

    It's the principle of the thing don't you see?

    If you allow people to get away with these things who occupy positions from which they may meddle in your personal life or make decisions which could affect it, then for all you know, it might be you on the next list of expendables in their way.

    Furthermore, I doubt if man would harbor any conception of justice in the first place if there was not some primordial prototype for it which existed before we did. This suggests a very real possibility that we may all be forced to answer for our sins someday. I have solid reasons for believing that this is so based on personal experience and I can tell you that those who must suffer the consequences of all those unrepentant deeds are not going to find Hell the pleasurable place they imagine. Once the door slams on eternity, there is no more lying ones way out of it or hope of negotiating a deal.

    Even the slightest discomfort for that length of time would be sufficient to merit the description of fire which it's been given. As much as I despise thugs, and callous killers, I could not be more emphatic in warning them they'd better come clean while the opportunity is still available. Even the electric chair would be preferable to what awaits them. At least that is only a temporary pain. That's the best that can be said about the options they left to their victims.

    A man can make threats that he can't keep. But God never makes idle threats. You can file that under "Believe it or Not."
     
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    If your online style is anything like your real life style, you would pretend you're all big and bad and then run away at the first sign of conflict. Your online threats and bragging are not impressing anyone.

    Is that how you justify your lies and your hate speech? I noticed you actually responded to your lie that Flight 11 took out Kroll headquarters on 9/11 by pretending the company that WAS there was REALLY Kroll because that company bought Kroll three years later. Know what you get when you heap dishonesty on top of lies? Truther speak.

    We don't think. We know. Let me once again direct your attention to the blatantly anti-semitic claim that Atlanta is "infested with Jews". Skinheads everywhere applaud your claims, but nobody else does.

    What you claim is proven to be a lie as soon as you go off on another one of your anti-semitic rants. You can make claims all day long, but actions speak louder than words. Your actions show there is no doubt about your Jew hating tendancies.

    Which explains why you're more than willing to give Al Qaeda a pass to go after them stinkin' Jews, right? :roll:

    And here we see you justifying murdering Jews in order to "spare the living". Gonna open up another concentration camp anytime soon?

    Only when one is so blinded by anti-semitic hate that they suspend reality to go with the fantasy of it being done by the Jews. You've proven time and time again you are more than willing to completely ignore the evidence in order to blame people for no other reason than they are Jews.

    Yes. It is called anti-semitism.

    Likewise, people should stand up to those peddling hate disguised as righteousness because they are the true evil in this world.

    What are you going to do then? Think Jesus supports anti-semitism? Think God appreciates you lying in order to spread hate? Think God appreciates you using him as an excuse to spread hate? I am seriously doubting it.

    Maybe you should listen to your own advice while you're preaching.

    Then you should be quaking in your shoes. I can guarantee that nobody you've threatened here online is quaking due to your little chest thumping bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    To truthers with an agenda, a couple years here or there don't make any more of a difference than all the other evidence they ignore. Who cares if Marsh took over Kroll three years AFTER 9/11. It still makes them dirty Jews who should be eradicated according to holston.
     
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    You're probably nowhere near as honest either. So what, exactly, are you going to do when you reach your online limit?
     
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    What are the odds that it's: check in for a mental health evaluation?

    Slim?

    Because a lot of people are trying to argue that we need to expand mental health funding to protect us from nutters who seek irrational revenge on innocent people.
     
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    http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-25-rules-of-disinformation/

    I'll expose you for starters.


    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

    18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=148958903&page=1
    http://www.toqonline.com/blog/zionist-internet-trolls/

    There's a copious amount of material that has been devoted to your kind for those who are interested.

    Still I am not certain that you are not simply that pimply faced adolescent just getting his kicks from making a nuisance of himself. You show a marked lack of creativity and finesse that most Hasbarats at least attempt to display. That is to say, they at least attempt to contrive arguments which show some semblance of reasonableness with respect to the actual issue or point in question. In your case, there is nothing but the incessant "That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" "You are an antisemite line". The only thing novel about it is the attempt to exacerbate by sheer asininity and monotony.

    I will give you credit in that your Sayinim helpers seem to have a certain admiration for the simplicity of the style which requires no thought or effort on your part or theirs. Otherwise they wouldn't be attempting to emulate you.


    In the end, what have you accomplished? You pushed a 9/11 link back a page or two. But what other message have you sent to the uninformed reader except "That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" "You are an anti-semite". Granted it's compact. But how does it discount one shred of incriminating evidence against the Zionist perps of 9/11? And how does it dispel a single doubt in the minds of the inquisitive?

    Answer: It couldn't unless the reader were almost brain dead. And if the majority of folks in this nation are that close to croaking then we may as well go ahead and give up the ghost for all is lost.

    But THAT's exactly what the Zionists want us to do isn't it?

    Sorry. My mind is still functioning. Your "That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" "You're an antisemite" argument isn't worth two cents.

    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/israeli-mossads-explosive-laden-911-vans-3-vans-painted-like-911-on-911-2-with-explosives-9-israeli-spies-some-filming-events-what-the-news-doesnt-say/

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  16. holston

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    http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-25-rules-of-disinformation/

    I'll expose you for starters.


    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

    18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=148958903&page=1
    http://www.toqonline.com/blog/zionist-internet-trolls/

    There's a copious amount of material that has been devoted to your kind for those who are interested.

    Still I am not certain that you are not simply that pimply faced adolescent just getting his kicks from making a nuisance of himself. You show a marked lack of creativity and finesse that most Hasbarats at least attempt to display. That is to say, they at least attempt to contrive arguments which show some semblance of reasonableness with respect to the actual issue or point in question. In your case, there is nothing but the incessant "That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" "You are an antisemite line". The only thing novel about it is the attempt to exacerbate by sheer asininity and monotony.

    I will give you credit in that your Sayinim helpers seem to have a certain admiration for the simplicity of the style which requires no thought or effort on your part or theirs. Otherwise they wouldn't be attempting to emulate you.


    In the end, what have you accomplished? You pushed a 9/11 link back a page or two. But what other message have you sent to the uninformed reader except "That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" "You are an anti-semite". Granted it's compact. But how does it discount one shred of incriminating evidence against the Zionist perps of 9/11? And how does it dispel a single doubt in the minds of the inquisitive?

    Answer: It couldn't unless the reader were almost brain dead. And if the majority of folks in this nation are that close to croaking then we may as well go ahead and give up the ghost for all is lost.

    But THAT's exactly what the Zionists want us to do isn't it?

    Sorry. My mind is still functioning. Your "That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" "You're an antisemite" argument isn't worth two cents.

    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/israeli-mossads-explosive-laden-911-vans-3-vans-painted-like-911-on-911-2-with-explosives-9-israeli-spies-some-filming-events-what-the-news-doesnt-say/

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    You are here: Home / Featured / ISRAELI MOSSAD’S EXPLOSIVE LADEN 911 VANS: 3 Vans painted Like 911 on 911, 2 With Explosives, 9 Israeli Spies, Some Filming Events “What The News Doesn’t Say”
    ISRAELI MOSSAD’S EXPLOSIVE LADEN 911 VANS: 3 Vans painted Like 911 on 911, 2 With Explosives, 9 Israeli Spies, Some Filming Events “What The News Doesn’t Say”
    June 30, 2012 By admin 2 Comments

    Deeper Shades of Mossad – Urban Moving Systems & the Exploding Mural Van

    From the FBI report:

    The Israelis were observed near Liberty State Park New Jersey celebrating and photographing the World Trade Center (WTC) explosion within minutes after the WTC (Ie: The First Tower; the North Tower) was first hit by an aircraft.

    It should be noted that there were inconsistencies in the statements made by (Blanked out = Yaron Shmuel) who stated that the van he was in was on the West Side Highway in New York at the time of the attack on the WTC.

    However, he is clearly visible in photographs which he and other occupants in the van had taken from a roof top parking garage located at 100 Manhattan Avenue, Jersey City, New Jersey, within minutes after the first WTC building was struck by an aircraft.

    [So Yaron Shmuel and Sivan Kurzberg - who, as reported by The New York Times, was shown in one photograph "holding a lighted lighter" - both appear in the photos of the happy, celebrating Israelis.]

    Warehouse used by Jewish terrorist front urban MOving SystemS incorporAteD – Weehawken, NJ

    9/11 NYPD radio transmission:

    Officer:“I got a message on that uh plane, it’s a big truck with a mural painted of a… of an airplane diving into New York City and exploding [inaudible] know what’s in the truck, the truck is in between 6th and 7th on King Street.“
    Officer: “[Inaudible] … are you holding those two guys [inaudible] (Kay?)”

    Multiple voices/commotion: “[Inaudible] … (*)(*)(*)(*)ing beat the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of ‘em!”

    The location of the exploding-mural-van ‘incident’ on King Street – on 9/11

    Officer: “All right listen you need any [inaudible] on those two guys over there? You all right over there Kay?”

    Officer: “We got both suspects under Kay, we have the suspects who drive…drove in the van, the van exploded – we have both of them under Kay let’s get some help over here…”

    By going over the NYPD audio transmissions from 9/11 we learn that two “Middle Eastern” suspects ran away from and then detonated a bomb in the “mural-van” and were then apprehended. It’s clear that both were arrested by police and perhaps beaten.

    Later, they were sent home to the Jewish state (along with about 198 other Jewish spies) by then Attorney General John Ashcroft.


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    THAT's how a cover up works.

    If you've followed this thread then you should already see how the hasbarats do it. Expect no compromise or rational argument from them. They can lie with finesse and subtlety or they can lie directly and deliberately. Either way is with malice and forethought.

    And to all you JUDEOxtians who have swallowed their "You're an anti-semite" argument that this is a racial issue and that all people questioning "authorities" on 9/11 or expressing doubt you need to remember first and foremost when dealing with "Jews" this single and very critical FACT. They are NOT Christians. Therefore they do not comport with Christian edicts against lying. Quiet the opposite, their Talmud condones and encourages it, so long as it used against gentiles.
     
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    Nice personal attack. Got anything else?
     
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    Total bull(*)(*)(*)(*), especially that part about the FBI investigation. You repackage lies and hope to God nobody notices your posts are nothing but bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies.

    Let me demonstrate so you can run away like the truther you are.

    Really? Within minutes? The phone call came from a lady who had to be informed by her neighbor of the crash in the first place. Source

    Even then, all this shows is your unbelievably paranoid views of Jews lead you to believe anyone anywhere who is Jewish is the enemy. Nothing was found on those five Israelis. They were part of no plot.

    So what is your claim? That they were somehow involved in 9/11? How? Can you actually back up your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) or are you going to just sit there like a monkey at the zoo flinging (*)(*)(*)(*) at everyone?
     
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    First off, I read through "Saving City Lifelines: Lessons Learned from the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks" and then did multiple searches of the document. There is no such statement in the entire document at all. Here's a link to the actual report. You can double check me, but at no point do they say anything about a van full of explosives being stopped, or even sited. You're lying again, Holston.

    Also, if the Van did exist why do they need an artist rendition. Why didn't they just take a picture? Because there is no such thing, it's a blatant lie. Let it go.

    $150K? That's what they raised to launch a "campaign", I hate to tell you slick but if they got $150K then there wouldn't be a whole hell of a lot left for anyone else after me. Which means Fang, Patriot, Hannibal, etc are all working pro bono.

    Using this:
    As my search criteria to bring up any document that has that sentence or any combination of it brings up these search results. Guess what? Not one official account of what you're talking about Holston. Not one single legitimate website.

    Christconquers
    truedemocracy
    lunaticoutpost (fitting)
    guidinglight

    Those are the results, meaning that there is no factual basis for this. It is either made up, or you are lying, again, Holston. Provide factual documentation instead of unsourced quotes consisting of lies, and BS.

    Now it is shown that you are using sources that are blatantly lying. The sources you are using don't even back you up, which means every source you use from here on out is questionable.

    You are lying, Holston, and I would like to know why.
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    *double post*
     
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    [video=youtube;nk6638cAf1M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk6638cAf1M[/video]

    [video=youtube;2DHMl7e1luk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DHMl7e1luk[/video]

    [video=youtube;IjSi30ODcbw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSi30ODcbw[/video]

    Listen at 5:19

    Faked?

    I don't think so.

    Unknown vans seen arriving and leaving at early hours of mornings preceding the attacks.

    FBI finding explosive devices, speculating that a van with explosives caused damage to basement not associated with plane impacts.

    Many FBI agents testifying that they were told to "stand down" (not investigate the suspected terrorists and etc)

    [video=youtube;fbKNHjn2jDQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbKNHjn2jDQ[/video]


    There's too much here for it to all be made up.

    The Jewish/Zionist Sayinim Hasbarats disinformation agents are simply lying. That's all they can do.
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Hey, they lying anti-semite is back!
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CHq6JocvDM

    [video=youtube;2CHq6JocvDM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CHq6JocvDM[/video]


    The man seen standing to the left of Giuliani was not the police chief who was sent to prison for his deals with the mob. He does not exist.

    Dan Rather did not make the report about the van filled with explosives. It did not exist.

    Dan Rather does not exist. (That was actually Osama Bin Laden trying to fool you.)

    Hasbarats do not exist.

    Zionists do not exist.:reading:

    There's no such thing as a Jew. Even if there was, no one would know what one was.

    There are no wars in the middle east.

    You do not exist. :omfg:

    [video=youtube;OlnQTcLHaMM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlnQTcLHaMM[/video]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlnQTcLHaMM

    There were no missing trillions. Just ask our resident sayinim.

    All these news reports were fabricated by the Arabs. They could do this since Arabs control the media.

    Don't laugh. Just ask "Patriot", Plaque, and "Fang". THEY KNOW.
    YOU MUST TRUST THEM, and ONLY THEM.:eyepopping: Only the Sayinim can say for sure about anything. The truth belongs to the Jews and only to the Jews. They own all the property rights on it. :nod:Accept no imitations.
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    holston, the only person's credibility you are destroying is your own. I've already shown you where your "trillions" bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim is not only invalid, but most of the transactions have now been reconciled. Yet you insist on lying your ass off. Dan Rather admitted he made mistakes and the reports were not properly vetted. Not one van with explosives has shown up in any impound lot or police record.

    As for your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims of unknown vans...... are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing nuts? The twin towers get hundreds, if not thousands of cars and vans parked in them every day and night. You pretending you actually know about unknown vans only shows the massive paranoia rampant among truthers. So what does unknown vans prove? Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing except that truthers are so desperate for something.... ANYTHING to hang their hat on that they are willing to lie their ass off and ignore the fact their claims make no sense.

    You (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about everyone completely trashing your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) should be a prime indicator of your frustration and knowledge that your own bull(*)(*)(*)(*) can't be defended.
     

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