How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge

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  1. Eretria

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    Let me say before I answer that I do not know whether this story is true or false. I'll wait to see the findings of the investigation if it's still underway.

    To answer your question, I think a common error that some people make is when they assign blame to relatives of the person who made the mistake. It's called guilt by association. While I can certainly see that Hunter is the son of Joe Biden I do not see that Hunter's actions as a man should be assigned to his parents.
     
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    There is no question that Hunter was paid a lot of money by China and in his Burisma job. Hunter had absolutely nothing of value to offer to justify these situations other than access to his father. Hunter Biden as just plain Hunter Biden is just an amoral junkie with nothing to sell.
     
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    and what access to Joe did China and Burisma get?
     
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    If what you claim is true then my response is, so what. There's a difference between perception and outcome. Anything else is speculation and those aren't facts. I'm waiting to learn what the outcome of the investigation shows. I think we all should wait before digging in our heals and going to our corners.

    I do want to address your comment about addiction. I hope you never have anyone you love go through addiction. It is heart wrenching and devastating to watch someone you care about go through it. It's a disease that impacts all levels of society and it doesn't care where you live, how much money you have, or your social standing. No one is immune. Please keep that in mind.
     
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  5. Andrew Jackson

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    Great point.

    And, if Trump Supporters want to play the "Guilt by Association" card, does that mean that they are in favor or imputing the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein to his buddy Donald Trump?

    They can't have it both ways.
     
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    From the article:
    Balding said Aspen is “an entirely fictional individual created solely for the purpose of releasing this report.” Balding did not name the document’s main author, saying “the primary author of the report, due to personal and professional risks, requires anonymity.”

    So how is the right wing going to defend the 'anonymity' claim here? They don't accept anything provided by 'sources' or 'anonymous sources'...but the rest of us are supposed to just swallow this whole? SMH
     
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    It was ALWAYS FAKE.

    And, Everybody KNEW it was FAKE..
     
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    it's fake news, most can see that
     
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    The 3/4 of America (Outside of the Faux/Trump Bubble) ALWAYS KNEW It Was FAKE.
     
  10. Heartburn

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    Are you saying that didn't happen? Then why Hunter?
     
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    Yes, he went to law enforcment and they said they want to hear from him...ie investigate.

    why would they reopen something they never closed? Geez stop making things up
     
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    Ok, he's a pitiful pos but a pos regardless with absolutely nothing to offer on his own. Sorry for your personal problems.
     
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    what's fake?
     
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    You mean they're reporting on something to make people believe this lie is what it's about.

    Nice try.
     
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    How dare you attack that brave whistleblower.
     
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    Says the people who tell us Russia hacked the DNC server.
     
  17. AKS

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    See, this here is just plain ******. I'm so f***ing tired of hearing that hunter didn't know anything about the natural gas industry as if that (even if true) proves some nefarious point. Message alert trumpateers: it doesn't. You see, burisma was a BUSINESS and as such needed executives to conduct business and advise on matters that weren't strictly constrained to knowledge of gas. Y'all might find it hard to believe but there are lawyers, execs, and managers who work at my hospital that don't know much about medicine. Fascinating, I know.
     
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    Who cares? Did joe ever do anything unethical? And no, getting shokin fired was not unethical. That man WAS corrupt, our government wanted him fired - joe was not acting in a vacuum here. People who believe otherwise are suckers.
     
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    So what did Hunter have to offer? In spite of your colorful language you don't say a thing about his qualifications for his various high paying situations. Do the managers in your hospital oversee surgeries?

    I'm sure the people who hired Hunter got exactly what they needed from him.
     
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    He has a freaking law degree from Yale AND executive experience. I'm sure he was hired mostly because of his connections (nothing wrong with that BTW) but don't pretend like he was completely unqualified.
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    Trump said that, not Biden. Hunter said, "Yes, I smoked crack. So what?"
     
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    Is that supposed to be noteworthy for some reason?
     
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    Our Government when the VP was..........
     
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    yes money laundering and taking kickbacks from china is unethical

    and when you say our govt what you mean is the VP.
     
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  25. AKS

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    Do you have a point? Are you suggesting it was biden who convinced the rest of the western world that shokin needed to go?
     

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