How can the Vatican justify its wealth?

Christianity believes all human beings have inherited irreparable sin from Adam & Eve, and are bound for Hell no matter how good a person they try to be. All humans are forever cursed to be punished for eternity, due to the Original Sin.

Judaism, on the other hand, believes that God judges us based on our actions and deeds, and as long as the Jews follow the 613 Miztvahs and non-Jews follow the 7 Laws of Noah, all humanity can be rewarded in the afterlife and avoided the Eternal Hellfire.

Personally I prefer the Jewish idea.

 

only maybe half of the Jewish Holocaust victims were gassed. The rest died from starvation, shooting, torture, or disease/illness in the camps and ghettos.

But tell me, since you believe that the Jews committed a terrible treason against Germany, and collectively engaged in a Holy War against Germany, do you believe that Germany had the right to engage in warfare against the Jews of the World? Did Germany have the right to engage in ein heilege krieg gegen die Juden?

what should this Holy War consist of? Did Germany have the right to seize Jewish property all of Germany? how about all over Europe?

Did Germany, in their holy war against the "Jewish traitors", have the right to deport all the Jews of Germany and Europe into ghettos and concentration camps?

 

I hope you’re addressing conservatives.

 

I dont think I'll ever understand how HDs think it makes sense to deny the Holocaust, by accusing the Jews of Europe and the world of treason and Communism, and saying the Jews of the world needed to be punished for their evil crimes.

Its almost like they are denying the Holocaust by justifying the Holocaust.

 

“Which Holocaust “
Can’t be more obvious then that.

This is worthy of mod consideration.

 

Thank you sir. I'd also like to thank the HDs for their incredibly inconsistent comments and statements. Cuz by justifying the Holocaust and justifying hatred of the Jews and persecution of the Jews, they are kinda proving the Holocaust happened.

 

They prove one thing. Anti Semitism is a still alive.

 

Dude, its VERY alive and well in the comments of HDs. Show me a HD who does NOT hate Jews or bear ill-will towards Jews, and I'll show you a flying pig.

 

No doubt about the Catholic religion being the closest to Jewdaism with a bar/bat mitzvah, a high mass on steroids which rivals that of the Way of the Cross. About the only difference in the garb is the kippah. I think they have the same writers.

 

Judaism and Catholicism are EXTREMELY different.

Catholicism believes in Original Sin, that damns all man kind to Hell. Judaism has no such beliefs, we believe all mankind can achieve God's approval through good works and holy deeds.

Catholicism is full of Roman ideas, beliefs, and of course architecture, statues & imagery. Jesus would kill himself if he saw how very Roman his "church" was.

 

A bit of topic, but I think when noting anti-jewish hatred, it also needs to be pointed out that criticism of Israel is not necessarily anti-jewish hatred. Too often it gets spun that way.

 

I hope by my posts you can tell was jesting about the garb and the number traditions. Of course they are different in beliefs, but they do swap robes .

A close friend who is Jewish and I have a fun time laughing at the fables in both.

Btw, early Christians had no idea they were forming a new religion. They were Jews in every sense of the word except for their “new king”

 

Well, actually he did. God came down as man knowing he would die…..That’s the one truth of religion if there is one.No one gets out alive.

 

I hear you……all a non Jew had to do is read and listen to ligit criticism by other Jews. Besides, Israel is a country. One can disagree with a countries politics….their residents do themselves.

 

Uh, wut?

It is an undeniable historical fact that Imperial Roman Catholic Poops and clergy married for centuries.

One day, probably because a Poop saw two birds in a tree, one of the Poops said, "Hell, no, you cain't marry any more."

Do I care?

You know what? I don't care. To me, the Poops are poop.

From time immemorial, New Years was always celebrated on the 1st Day of Spring. It was so for at least 25,000 years before one of the Poops got a wild hair up his ass and changed it to January 1st.

I care more about that then whether some guy can marry or not.

That was stupid and there was no logical or valid reason to do that. That was just one of the Poops throwing poop around because the sheeple let them.

If you wanna know the reason why the Poop did that, it was because he was scared to death that New Years on the 1st Day of Spring was too closely linked to ungodly pagan rituals.

 

I guess you agree than . There is no valid reason for not allowing priests to marry.

 

Ronstar, I can't understand why you people dwell on these things? I recall seeing some Orthodox Jewish children's books and they were showing the Czechs as monsters persecuting the Jews.

On my mothers side of the family 60 thousand were killed in the first great massacre in history, and 40 thousand were taken into slavery - yet no one ever spoke about it. If I hadn't read the book; The Blight of Asia, by the American Consul General in Smyrna during the ethnic cleansing in 1922, I wouldn't know anything about the Turkish atrocities.

No one in my family ever spoke about the massacre. They only spoke about the Turks on my fathers side and how they freed themselves. I don't even know how my maternal ancestors survived. Did they leave and return, or did they hide in the mountains?

Yet with all the persecutions, when Istanbul suffered a devastating earthquake in the 90's, the first people that ran to help them were the Greeks. Yet Turkey is the one that makes claims on the Greek islands and waters and believes it's been victimized, and that everything has been stolen from them.

 

Before the schism there was one Christian Church and bishops never married - which means the Popes never married since he is the bishop of Rome.

The Pope became more imperialist with the German invasions. That's when the Vatican switched from being a Latin/Greek Church into a Latin/Frank Church.

Why the insults and why do you keep talking about things you know nothing about? The Pope had no power before the schism, and everything was decided by the Ecumenical Councils.

No it doesn't damn mankind because Jesus redeemed us.

Christians believe that one cannot achieve perfection just by following laws. Perfecting oneself and being able to unite with God after one dies can only come through God's Grace. It's a gift God gives people when they accept Jesus' redemption and repents for their sins. I think though an acceptance of God and repentance is the key, since not everyone knows Jesus.

You're forgetting that Jesus was rejected by the Jews, but the Gentiles did not reject Him.

You have it all wrong about the Church being Roman. We believe that God created the Jews for the morality that went into Christianity, and God created the Greeks for their minds and thoughts that went into Christianity. By the same account we could say that God created the Romans for their Empire and the communication necessary for Christianity to spread throughout the world.

Basically the time was ripe for the full revelation of God.

 

There is one valid reason. The Catholic Church cannot afford to pay married priests.

 

Everything I know about the Jews are from the Jews themselves.

 

Well, if all parishes send money to Rome, one of every five dollars, no they can’t. There in lies the problem. So I guess we’re saying as we always knew, it’s about the $$$. They should rethink it . That’s why we have protestants.

 

The problem is the Catholic Church is universal, and the money that comes from the US goes to support the poorer parishes and institutions in other countries.

 

American conservatives believe in a strict adherence to our Constitution which establishes and defends our freedoms. This is why they support state rights in contrast to a strong federal government.

 

We can only see others through our own eyes. That you haven't acquired the Holy Spirit doesn't mean that others haven't reached that level.

So tell me what do you think about the following? Do you really think that God is so limited that He can't do what we ourselves are incapable of doing? At the Church of Saint Isadore at Lycavettos in Athens there are two rooms packed with testimonies from over 12 thousand people, all with the names of doctors and the hospitals they were at. One oncologist even sends her patients there after being cured herself of terminal cancer.

This is one of the many videos of the woman with multiple sclerosis that shocked the world.


Here is Pater Demetrios curing a blind girl:


This man from Albania had cancer and after the doctors operated they said he wouldn't live. He told them he will live because he knew Pater Demetrios. Pater cured him with the Cross and now he's well and wants to be baptized.

 

Peter did all of this. I’ll believe it if it can be replicated using blind or mask testing at Johns Hopkins or the like ( along with a dozen others) with a sufficient sample not all suseptable going in with mass hysteria.

Cause really, any healing drug gets the same.