How do you feel about Israel?

Just how you feel about them overall. Me personally feels positive towards them, because they're a well functioning democracy, their military is good and they've won several wars against overwhelming numbers, I recognise their claim, they're a western nation. among other reasons.

 

The only reason we defend this nation is the strong belief in the return of the Jews to the Holy Land. The Jewish Lobby in the US is very powerful and have us by the balls,
I am not comfortable with the influence they have on our nation and in US politics as a whole. I do however, strongly support the right for Israel to exist and defend itself. I absolutely reject all terrorist acts committed against this nation.

War cannot be won by tanks and missiles alone, It is time the Israelis understood that and stop using the Jewish lobby to influence the US pushing for an all out war on Iran.
Overall though I feel positive about Israel and believe we have a responsibility to defend this nation at all costs.

 

This is how much I care about Israel.

 

I don't support colonialism, so i feel negative towards Israel. Curiously, they've developed into a fascist state - it would be ironic if it wasn't so tragic.

 

Very negative

 

The persecuted have become the persecutors.

 

The persecuted have become the persecutors.

 

I don't...

 

Psalm 137:5-7

King James Version (KJV)

5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.

6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.

7 Remember, O Lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

 

You are an idiot, we have no obligation to defend israel, let them defend themselves!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Negative. Although there are some very good Israelis their voices are drowned out by the rightwing nuts. They have returned rightwing governments for a long time now and they are getting ultra right which is never a good thing. They have kicked every peace agreement into the long grass as they do not want peace,they just want to steal more land. They murder people wholesale and claim they are the victims,if they did not have the backing of America then they would be head deep in sanctions. The future does not look good for them and I would not be surprised that if there was nuclear war they start it.

Israel is a country whose foundation is the theft of land from the rightful owners,they expelled by force hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and stole their land and at the time that they were dong this they were claiming yet again that they were the victims. They claimed that the Arabs were in the wrong for refusing the UN partition, which is a joke. A bunch of illegal immigrants turn up in your land and in 1947 own just 6% of the land and make up 1/3 rd of the population and the UN gives them 56% of the land in the partition and they wonder why the Arabs turned it down, I would have turned it down as well and so would anyone else.

 

It's difficult because it's extremely polemic and there is very little prospect of objectivity in the information disseminated about Israel's history and even less on recent events.

People are generally very partisan on this topic. Also support for Israel is heavily identified with particular political affiliations, therefore others may not be objective because of that association.

Israel has seen the outcome of being defenceless. It will never allow that to recur.

It is located in the midst of bitter enemies and knows one military defeat will be the end. There will be no second chance. Who can say that is over reaction? I don't think it is, really.

It is the only country in that region with Western values.

It is possibly the only Westernised country which would dream of allowing continual bombardment without aggressive retaliation. But until it reaches agreement with the Palestinians, it will always be on the back foot. Until that issue is resolved, it will always be judged and found lacking by the moralistic.

Israel may be about to deploy foot soldiers. This is very dangerous in every way, for them and Hamas and for innocent people in that region. Hopefully they know enough to make whatever strike (one assumes they must deem is absolutely necessary and must be a really major threat if they are prepared to undertake it when opposition is so vocal) then withdraw.

 

I don't like Israel. Israel is where all the Bolsheviks and Trotskyites ended up after Stalin came down on their heads. The only reason they make a pretense of democracy is that they are dependent on the US, UK, France, etc. for $$$.

 

Rule of thumb: It's my understanding that the entire area, from Bosnia to Libya and all places in-between( Iraq, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Parts of Egypt, Jordan, etc.) belonged to the Ottoman Empire for five hundred years. They attacked further into Europe and were driven back to Turkey, ceding all the land holdings to the victors, who later divided it up to the several mideast entities, including the Jews. It was theirs(England, France) to divide at their leisure. Consequently, Israel is as legitimate a country as any other. So, outside of opinion, what the Arab world thinks about Israel is pretty much irrelevant. Jews spent the next sixty years bettering themselves. The Palestinians spent it conspiring murder. Hence Israels progress, and the others dusty stew. I admire Israel....always have. I'm just sorry that the UN didn't give Israel a bigger piece, including Gaza and the West Bank.

I also believe that the bulk of Palestinians aren't indigenous to the area. They came from all corners of the mideast as migrant workers at the turn of the twentieth century. So, IMO, the Palestinians golden bond to the area is just so much romantic trash.

 

Churchill, Stalin and Truman (anti-semites all) wanted a place for their 'Jewish problems' and pushed Israel through the UN. Might not have been a bad idea except that a lot more of them stayed than moved to Israel. The Jews got two states in the bargain. I only get one.

 

Their politicians wear suits and their enemies are mostly Muslim, what's not for you to like?

 

Not sure how serious this post is supposed to be, but I think it worth mentioning that the person who (allegedly) wrote this was the king of Israel (historic Israel, not the Western creation). As king of Israel, sure, David had an obligation to it. The rest of us do not.

 

If by "this" nation you mean the USA, then you are correct. No other nation do we have a responsibilty to defend to our own detriment, let alone "at all costs". They are big boys. They can take care of themselves. I am neither for nor against Israel, except in that they are and have been a liability to the US, MY country. We should adopt a strictly neutral stance. I believe Condy Rice referred to it as being an "honest broker".

 

Lol. Please tell me you're not serious?

 

*duplicate

 

These men were not anti semites. Stalin was jewish by birth. They were (Churchill and Truman), anti-Ashkenazi. The true semites are the arabs, genetically speaking.

 

Couldn't have said it better. The reason some hate Israel---is because of hatred. They align more with thugs, terrorists and those who don't appreciate the concept of freedom.

 

Nope...

Anti-Semitism is the idea that people who speak a Semitic language -e.g., the Arabs and the Jews- belong to an inferior race. This nineteenth-century idea is mistaken, because there is no link between language and race; besides, the concept of 'race' is epistemologically weak and probably senseless.
Anti-Semitism has ancient roots. In the age of the Crusades (1095-1291), the Europeans started to regard the Muslim Arabs -which they had first admired- as the enemies of Christianity, and the Christian anti-Judaic polemic dates back to the first or second century CE. But aversion of Arabs and Jews is not a Christian invention. The Romans described their emperor Philippus Arabs (244-249), who was of Arabian descent, in denigratory terms; and Greek and Roman authors describe the Jews in words that are, in a sense, shockingly modern.

Their ideas about Judaism are the subject of the present article. In this first part, several anti-Semitic incidents are described; in the second part, we will discuss the ideas of those who hated the Jews.


The first incidents
For anti-Semitism to arise, the Jews had to be a recognizable minority in a foreign state. Because they worshipped only one God, they were always recognizable; and they became a minority in a foreign state during the Babylonian Captivity. From the sixth century on, there was a substantial Jewish minority in Babylonia.

continued.

http://www.livius.org/am-ao/antisemitism/antisemitism01.html

 

And they have a very good universal health system sponsored by the government!

 

There is no obligation whatsoever to the United States. Not moral, ethical, or legal. I would never defend the United States against any enemy.