How fast can humans travel in space?

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your point is that there's overwhelming evidence but people aren't ready for the details.

    The details are hidden and you support that position.

    Well, do you ever see humans as being ready? Or is this just "they'll never be ready, ha ha!" ???
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    We have no choice but to be ready....as there is an unbelievable amount of things going on.

    But I give credit to those who have to deal with it.

    But allowing the Population to know....well actually it's really not much of a secret as many times real events are discussed and most people think it is B.S. so those who cannot handle the idea and concept who reject the overwealming evidence do the work of those who keep a lid on this for them!!!

    After all...why send a Team in to talk to a person who has witnessed Alien Activity when their entire neighborhood will label them NUTS AND A KOOK AND CRAZY!!

    People do the JOB all on their own.

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh well I have heard sometimes that people see things. Sometimes they even see patterns of light in the sky over a city that must be attached to a huge structure up in the air. We're talking about a mass sighting. Well anything's possible.

    But it's not just alien activity either is it? No, there might be all sorts of secrets going on.

    But when it's not aliens, then they're all too eager to silence that.

    The insidious thing is that they don't go after the individual they go after a relative. Have them go begging to the witness to stop what they're saying.

    And it usually works because when someone says something they think, well, it's just their neck on the line, but suddenly when they realize they aren't the only person who will take the fall, well, that changes everything.

    I know of what I speak... It's okay. :smile:
     
  4. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    I want to ask how you believe this stuff but on second thought...
     
  5. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    And I can Google Joseph Smith who claims to have talked to a supreme being, who gave him gold tablets, etc. which created the Mormon religion...or Charles Manson who said the devil made him do it...or any number of scenarios in which there is no empirical evidence. They make for interesting reading but all of them are fiction...
     
  6. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh right, I just realized AboveAlpha can't talk about this stuff! :grin:
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    That IS the Methodology....and it works very well.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    So you are somehow equating Joey Smith to ASTRONAUTS BUZZ ALDRIN....GORDON COOPER...EDGAR MITCHELLE.....NEIL ARMSTRONG...ETC?

    Not to mention all the Cosmonauts.

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know! They used it on me! :grin:

    What I don't know is what they use on you?
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    It has nothing to do with BELIEF!!!

    That I can say for certain.

    AboveAlpha

    - - - Updated - - -

    I am not an abductee.

    I am just aware of certain....REALITIES.

    AboveAlpha
     
  11. wgabrie

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    Well, I imagine that if anyone thought I was ready for certain realities then they could ask me if I wanted to go on a long car ride.

    Not the one that you don't come back from, mind you. Although I suppose that could also be arranged if it turned out that I wasn't ready for it after all.

    And then I imagine a blind fold would be involved.

    But I'd want to know ahead of time, or at least have some time to get ready first. None of that snatch and grab in the middle of the night. LOL!
     
  12. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just kidding. I'm not ready. :rolleyes:
     
  13. OldManOnFire

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    Yes...nothing personal with any of them...there is simply no empirical evidence, no trace evidence, no nothing other than what people claim. I believe the Universe is filled with life forms from intelligent to single-celled and this is based solely on what we know about Earth and how things have evolved...statistics say if it can happen here it can happen other places. With all that we know and have achieved, we can't even put a human on Mars, yet you believe ET's have traveled from presumably other solar systems, exposed themselves to Buzz and Gordon, etc. and then kept on going?
     
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    Of what I know....and it is not much....there is a vast amount of evidence both personal experience and PHYSICAL that exists specific to E.T.

    One of the SMOKING GUN'S is a LETTER that should have been covered up but was not due to a screw up.

    Prior to the Freedom of Information Act going into effect all information that could be computer accessed on E.T. was scrubbed....BUT.....they forgot about PHYSICAL PAPER RECORDS that they had stored in the New Mexico DEPT. OF AGRICULTURE ARCHIVES.

    This man who was doing Climate Change studies was in this Archive which is an old U.S. Dept. of Agriculture Records Depot....and he was looking up DUST BOWL DATA and comparing it to the Agriculture data up to 1950....when he came accross a letter....and YOU and anyone else here can Google and view this letter and series of letters discovered.

    The Letter was one from FBI Director J.Edgar Hoover to future SAC BOSS General Curtis LeMay....where Hoover was DEMANDING FBI access to the recovered Alien Ship Debris as well as Bodies which had been sent to Wright Field which now is Wright Patterson AFB home of the USAF's TECHNOLOGICAL REVERSE ENGINEERING DIVISION.

    Hoover made all sorts of threats to LeMay saying this was the FBI's issue not the Army Air Corps...latter to be the USAF.

    LeMay replied in another letter stating that Hoover had better let this go and that the FBI would never be allowed access.

    Hoover then wrote to Ike and Ike basically had Truman tell Hoover that if he did not drop the issue he would be removed as FBI Director and if Hoover did not shut his mouth....perhaps something worse!

    These letters exist.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Whatever 'those letters' might be, and no matter who wrote them, they provide nothing but folklore. How big was this supposed space craft? This tiny object had enough fuel, environment, and food for ET's to travel light-years in distance? Whatever it's propulsion system none of this has been recovered? Nothing in this incident and other incidents provides an ounce of proof...
     
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    They don't use Propulsion.

    And just because the info is not public does not mean it does not exist.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I watched a documentary on Netflix called Sirius. A scientist in it claims they already have the technology for interstellar travel.
     
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    What exactly did he state as if mentioned some specifics he will not be around for long.

    AboveAlpha
     
  19. wgabrie

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    Hey, is this it?

    Sirius (film)

     
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    Yep, that's the one.
     
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    Several scientists died under suspicious circumstances. Apparently they have built an anti-gravity device.
     
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    It's not ANTIGRAVITY.

    It's a GRAVITIC DRIVE.

    If you remove Gravity then what happens is that the rest of everything in motion zooms past you while you stay still.

    It is designed to Warp or Fold Space-Time.

    This takes inertia right out of the equasion as you would be traveling...without moving.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Tesla was a true genius and had he lived we would now be amongst the stars"

    " Did Tesla Discover the Secrets of Antigravity?

    Nikola Tesla has been credited for the creation of much of the technology that we take for granted today. Without the genius of Tesla we would not have radio, television, AC electricity, Tesla coil, fluorescent lighting, neon lighting, radio control devices, robotics, x-rays, radar, microwaves and dozens of other amazing inventions.

    Because of this, it is no surprise that Tesla also delved into the world of flight and possibly, antigravity. In fact, his last patent in 1928 (#1,655,114), was for a flying machine that resembled both a helicopter and an airplane. Before he died, Tesla reportedly devised plans for the engine of a spaceship. He called it the anti-electromagnetic field drive or Space Drive.

    William R. Lyne writes in Occult Ether Physics, that a lecture Tesla prepared for the Institute of Immigrant Welfare (May. 12, 1938), dealt with his Dynamic Theory of Gravity. Tesla said in his lecture that this was:

    "One of two far reaching discoveries, which I worked out in all details in the years 1893 and 1894."

    While researching Tesla's statements, Lyne discovered that more complete statements concerning these discoveries could only be gleaned from scattered and sparse sources, because Tesla's papers are concealed in government vaults for national security reasons.

    When Lyne specifically asked for these papers at the National Security Research Center (now the Robert J. Oppenheimer Research Center) in 1979, he was denied access because they were still classified. In his 1938 lecture, Tesla said he was progressing with the work, and hoped to give the theory to the world very soon.



    The two great discoveries to which Tesla referred, were:

    The Dynamic Theory of Gravity - which assumed a field of force which accounts for the motions of bodies in space; assumption of this field of force dispenses with the concept of space curvature (ala Einstein); the ether has an indispensable function in the phenomena (of universal gravity, inertia, momentum, and movement of heavenly bodies, as well as all atomic and molecular matter).


    Environmental Energy - the Discovery of a new physical Truth: there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment. (Which goes against Einstein's E=mc2). The usual Tesla birthday announcement -on his 79th birthday (1935) -Tesla made a brief reference to the theory saying it applies to molecules and atoms as well as to the largest heavenly bodies, and to "... all matter in the universe in any phase of its existence from its very formation to its ultimate disintegration."

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/lostjournals/lostjournals06.htm
     
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    Propulsion is ANYTHING that moves or drives something so whatever it takes to go from Point A to Point B had some form of impetus to allow this to happen...
     
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    There is no g force in space.

    In theory an individual could travel 185,999 miles per second in space, but no one really knows what happens when one travels at the speed of light because that is partical speed. According to Einstein's theory of relativity the faster an object goes the more dense/massive an object becomes so one would probably get blown into pieces at some point before the mass gets to great or will be completely compressed into a tiny particle.
     

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