How long Putin will be a president in Russia?

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  1. vis

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    I have read today in the webpage of parliament of Chechen Republic in Russia that
    a new initiative is worked out and is going to be issued to Russian Duma about changing the time when one person can be a president in Russia. Currently, it is limited by two 6 years terms. The project suggests to increase two to three terms. The idea was suggested by Kadyrov, the president of Chechen Republic. The link is in Russian, but it can be translated in google.
    http://parlamentchr.ru/press-centre/news/7098-m-daudov-provjol-38-e-zasedanie-soveta
    I think this is actually a bad indication of processes that are going in internal Russian politics.
    I have a feeling the Russian people are tried to be deceived in this case. It was enough one change of the constitutution when the term was increased from 4 to 6 years. Now this...
     
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    Six years.
     
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    Putinka will die in office:))...Russians., enjoy your dictatorship,LOL.
     
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    I do not think so. I think if he wants to go for the next term, he will not get support, zoom. There are limits to the patience of people. But I hope it would be then the same way as it was in Armenia, but not like it was in Ukraine.
     
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    He is like 70, right?
    Than he has about another 20 years to go.
    Russia will probably become a “parliamentary republic”, President will be eliminated and Russia will be run by eternal prime minister.
     
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    Like in Germany?
     
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    Till the end of the world. :confuse:
     
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    Vladimir Putin doesn't want to train someone to take over, but rather to develop a culture and people that will retain Russian values, and not mimic those of a decadent West. By doing so, he will insure Russia a righteous leadership after he's gone.

    With the hypocrisy and corruption of political leaders throughout the world, democracy is starting to have a bad connotation. In Russia there is a popular priest who speaks of a different government. He's thinking of a return to a monarchy, but not an inherent one. He thinks more in terms of the Byzantine Emperor, but you know what. They were being kicked out all the times, and then had their noses cut off and worse. I don't like that. But then again they were Greeks, and Greeks are volatile so maybe in Russia it would work better. Who knows?

    As for me, I believe in complete freedom, and a return to city/states. That way no one group can impose their own standards on others.
     
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    Russians in general need to get hit in the head with a club, they demand it, Putin will be there til he's dead afaic.
     
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    Ukraine should be so lucky. Enjoy your servitude and embedded crooks. They own you.


    There were over 100 CIA and Soros' NGO's in Armenia, a nation with only a few million people. It was a coup similar to what happened in Ukraine. No doubt the protesters were paid. He was not elected, and the situation is very similar to Georgia with Sashkavili who is now wanted there for his criminality. Considering the problems Armenia has with Azerbejian and Turkey, I don't know what he plans on doing, but in the end he will probably be hung up by his heels.


     
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    I do not think that situation in Armenia was comparable to Ukraine. Of course, people went out on the streets because of existing corruption and the feeling that they are deceived by the government. But Ukranian coup (or as some call revolution) resulted in blood of people and civil war, while in Armenia everything went without any military conflict.
     
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    Not exactly. In western countries opposition gets to use national media to criticize current government and voice their ideas.
    In Russia that’s not the case. And opposition journalists tend to fall off the balconies.
     
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    The reason for changing the watch "presidency" or government in "democracies" is to keep the government honest. I'm not sure this has worked very well in the best of democracies, however corruption is rife in dictatorships and far less so in democracies, due to this changing of the guard capable of bringing previous governments to justice.

    Therefore imo it doesn't really bother me who the president is or for how long, as long as they are fighting corruption (such as Xi Jinping is currently doing) and provide the people with an independent fair judiciary (still not achieved in China) both of these are very big problems in Russia and I believe Putin should address this, regardless of how long he remains in power.

    The problem with continuing to extend the length of the term is the inability of a successive government to act as a check and balance for a previous corrupt government.
     
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    The only citizen of paRussia who gets to decide this is putin.
     
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    I think in the west the opposition can use only the media sources which agree to do that, and that depends on who finance them.
     
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    There are laws that prohibit discrimination when selling advertising slots.
     
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    Actually, I think you are right- more important not how long the person stays in power, but what he actually does to reduce the corruption, raise the quality of life of people etc. The problem is that to start really to fight corruption, the first thing Putin has to do is to send some of his friends to the prison which is not easy.
     
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    If it is so, why then some western media sources are considered right oriented and another- left oriented etc? For me it means that they publish the materials that are compatable with the political views of the owners.
     
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    No, it’s more about the bias in programming and commentaries. During elections there are lots of ads on Fox for democrats and CNN carries a bunch of ads for Republicans. They hate each other, but they do carry the messages of politicians they criticize in commentaries.
     
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    He can use Scarlet's motto "If it's easy it's not worth doing"
     
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    And it take guts to root out organised crime too, and Putin is sure doing that. Our useless bloody waste-of-space 'leaders' would just pretend it isn't there. Or dream up another fake 'poisoned spy' story!
     
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    Putin is a dictator. The elections are rigged. He has been in power since 1999. Dmitry Medvedev was his puppet. Putin will be there until he dies, like all dictators.
     
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    Agree.
     
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    That someday the era of Putin will be over, is outside of any doubt! The question is just how this Putin era will end and how the transition to succession will happen ... and who will be the successor.

    Undoubtedly, the Merheit of the Russians is behind Putin, but this majority has shrunk in the meantime and the recent protests in the big cities also show that discontent is growing ... at least in the big cities for the first. It will definitely be exciting!
     
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