How Many Bombs Did the United States Drop in 2015?

That means 63.4 bombs per day in 2015 have been dropped on the Islamic world!

And this is how the U.S. government is going to win the hearts and minds of the Muslim world??? All this does is antagonize people and then you "have to bomb some more." It's a never-ending cycle! They'll never learn that you can't solve all your problems militarily.

The Pentagon also has strange arithmetic methods. Consider the following:

Pentagon officials claim that at least 25,000 Islamic State fighters have been killed (an anonymous official said 23,000 in November, while on Wednesday, Warren added “about 2,500” more were killed in December.) Remarkably, they also claim that alongside the 25,000 fighters killed, only 6 civilians have “likely” been killed in the seventeen-month air campaign. At the same time, officials admit that the size of the group has remained wholly unchanged. In 2014, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) estimated the size of the Islamic State to be between 20,000 and 31,000 fighters, while on Wednesday, Warren again repeated the 30,000 estimate. To summarize the anti-Islamic State bombing calculus: 30,000 – 25,000 = 30,000.

http://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/2016/01/07/how-many-bombs-did-the-united-states-drop-in-2015/

 

Just the other day I heard that ISIS is around 40,000 strong. Add in the 25k that were killed and it becomes apparent that they are able to robustly recruit. It also means that once we stopping killing them they will grow quite large quite fast.

 

It also means that the more you bomb and attack them the more battle-hardened they become and acquire more experience in military matters.

 

I have trouble believing this. If it was true, wouldn't Cindy Sheehan and the Code Pink, anti-war left be protesting Obama like they were against the previous President?

 

How does one get experienced in being bombed?

 

I suppose we could just roll over and comply with the demands of (the thank God, late) Osama bin Laden, to (half) wit:

(1) Withdraw entirely from The Middle East …
(2) Stop supporting The Jewish State of Israel …
(3) Stop exporting cultural filth all over the world …
(4) Convert to Islam ...

 

23,144? Is that all? It should have been more.

 

Well we have been bombing isis, but its good to know the left equates ISIS to muslims now. Thanks

 

One gets battle-hardened and those who escape notice things like Bomber planes or Jet Fighters and recognize their shape/type sound, bombs and maneuvers. Duh !

 

Don't many progressives want some of these? The first two, in particular?

 

Maybe if you say "pretty please" they will go away.

 

We've never targeted muslims but nice try.

And as far as how many we dropped, obviously not enough because ISIS is still gaining ground and growing.

 

The U.S. Dropped 23,144 Bombs On Muslims In 2015

We should have dropped 23,144 Navy Seals and Army Rangers so they could behead ISIS while they slept. Knowing someone is going to behead you while you sleep will transfer the terror to the terrorists. The island of Malta was bombed for 1,000 days during WW2 and never gave up. British marines invaded the Falkland Islands and restored British rule. If the terrorists are in one country running the government we should use the a-bomb on that country. If the terrorists are scattered throughout several countries we have to send in our best warriors.

 

That's not what Iraqi soldiers reported after being bombed, they were shell shocked, scared crapless and surrendered to drones. Beside, if we bomb them and they actually get used to it, so what? What can they do with that?

 

I wonder if Nobel would have taken back that Peace Prize if it would have reached 24,000? There's got to be a limit...

 

If this we're all true then where is the lefts outrage with Obama?

Secondly what are we supposed to do, just let them run free so you can instead (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about our lack of action?

Should we send troops in with only tazers? How about blow darts with tranquilizer ?

I say it should have been more, but Obama is too much slot a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and holds back on his brothers on the jv squad.

 

Lol, you know nothing about combat.

 

I appeal for a headline change to "Obama dropped 23,144 bombs on Muslims". It was by his decree that the sterile war be waged. A sterile war that the US can never win just make more and more enemies of the Muslim world.

 

The bombing just further antagonizes.

 

I agree with 1, 2 and 3 !

 

Yeah sure, they surrendered in droves, to such an extent, that the insurgency that followed existed only in my mind ... it never happened.

 

My post #10 was dead on. But I think #4 is not too far in the distance. When Islam gets strong enough in Europe many European progressives will convert to Islam rather than take on Muslims head to head. Just as long as progressives can still remain in power, it won't matter what they call themselves.

 

Obama the warmonger.

When are they going to ask for the return of the Nobel Peace Prize??????

 

I've been giving the answer countless times on this and other websites on what should be done to win this war...

first, we ask the government of that country, do you want us to assist you in eliminating the terrorists residing within your borders... if they say no, we leave, if they say yes, we now play a supporting role, to THEM leading... by this I mean we don't have front line fighters, we don't have planes bombing daily... their troops, their military, gets organized, they send them into a town... they use their weapons, they kill the terrorists, they go door by door if need be to accomplish this... after they go through a city, and deem it safer, and cause remaining terrorists to fall back to another stronghold, only now do we step in and surround that city... notice I said surround, not invade or occupy...

once our troops surround that city... so nobody can leave or enter, we allow their military to slowly withdraw from the city, putting their police force back in power of that city to control and maintain it... notice how none of our troops kicked in doors, shot people, or bombed buildings... THEIR troops did all that... this is a critical psychological thing in how the middle east views us... when their own people do it, they will work with them far more than working with us, they will have far better results in the long run... and we'll end up with far fewer dead troops since we'll be sitting on the borders, with a couple mile buffer of farm land and sand between our security troops and their city... their troops will maintain and control checkpoints, once again, we're just being used to fill all the dead space around the city to free up their forces...

now their army regroups, and pushes forward towards the next city... this is where our troops can do a tremendous service to them, we become the supply line, pushing supplies they need forward, as our logistics forces are amazing... we keep supply lines open so their troops don't get cut off, reinforcements from their army can reach them... and our troops are under minimal fire or danger since we've secured the pathway to that next city... meanwhile their troops are engaged in battles and pushing forward in the city and battling the terrorists and winning over the hearts of their own people... rather than the people looking at the evil occupying americans slaughtering people in the streets and shooting up and bombing homes... its their own army giving their own people some pride and something to believe in... this is critical still...

so now they secure a second city... once again we surround it, providing outside security and allow their army to regroup and form up for the next city... once again we keep the supply lines open... and lets say they meet extreme resistance and are unable to move forward and need to fall back... THIS is when our troops will provide the overwhelming amount of firepower so any terrorists engaged in chase will be obliterated with our air power and ground power repelling them from pursuit so the countries own army has a chance to regroup and form a new strategy going forward for that town... meanwhile their own police forces patrol the cities and keep the streets safe...

lets say as will happen, a terrorist or two gets in or radicalizes in a safe city... we still don't send troops in... we still just maintain the border around that city... we let their police force handle it, if need be they can send their military back into the city and handle situations if they deem it necessary... but once again, not a single english speaking person will be in there ripping families from homes or destroying buildings... it will be their people doing their job and duty... allowing "nationalization" to occur and for them to believe and build and trust their own military...

we need to stop being the worlds police, if they don't want us, pack up and get out, its not our right to invade other countries, but when they want our help, and they will, we must provide it inn a way that makes their army the chief and champion of the region... its the only way to ensure future stability... we can't tear up and rebuild another countries military, it took long for us to get ours to where it is today... we can't do that i months or years, it will take generations, but its a fight they must fight to keep it alive... this will give their citizens pride in their country because they did it, not america, not anyone else, they stood up to terrorism and said no to it... but as long as we continue to say they are helpless and can't do it, and force our ideals and actions upon them, they will continue to resent and hate will grow against america...

thats where we are today... we're resented and hated because we thought we could just walk in and blow (*)(*)(*)(*) up and make the world better... well, it didn't work... now they resent us and the hate is growing and fueling the enemy... we need to do a complete and dramatic about face but I doubt any president will have the balls to do this, because it will mean we as a nation failed, and this seems to be the biggest sticking point to bush going back, and obama expanding even more than bush... we didn't do it right the first time, and now we're following our failure up with more failure, our ego's got the best of us and we're paying a price along with all their people... I hate to bring up vietnam, but this was the same mental mistake we made there... its not a fair comparison, but its adequate enough to point out the mentality that failed us...

summary... let their people lead, because its the only way to stop the growth of resentment, as well as the only way to ensure long-term sustainability once our security forces stop surrounding their cities offering protection... but we need to play a role in this, we're just playing the wrong one right now... we should play the role of support, not control... we screwed up big time... and obama expanded that mistake five fold...

 

The U.S. Dropped 23,144 Bombs On Muslims In 2015


The US should add a few zeroes to that.