How many COVID-19 infections are asymptomatic? Research shows it may be a lot more than thought

SOME scientists say that, SOME scientists disagree.

Those who say it is natural are US and likely on the payroll of Big Pharma or CDC or Bill Gates.

Those who disagree are the black sheep of the scientific community, those who rock the boat.

The record shows it was engineered for gain of function in 2015 in these United States.

I'm going with the boat rockers.

 

He has, but he hasn't done nearly enough. We're the second largest manufacturer in the world, so we should be able make anything we need to fight COVID-19.

 

It’s very strange but I suppose if he did invoke the Act, he’d be admitting that his previous management was wrong.

 

Who said it was manufactured? It was a theory put to rest and only crackpots keep pushing it.

Yeah, sure--everyone lies except Trump.

Who are you talking about?

"SARS-CoV-2 is very closely related to the virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which fanned across the globe nearly 20 years ago. Scientists have studied how SARS-CoV differs from SARS-CoV-2 — with several key letter changes in the genetic code. Yet in computer simulations, the mutations in SARS-CoV-2 don't seem to work very well at helping the virus bind to human cells. If scientists had deliberately engineered this virus, they wouldn't have chosen mutations that computer models suggest won't work. But it turns out, nature is smarter than scientists, and the novel coronavirus found a way to mutate that was better — and completely different— from anything scientists could have created, the study found.

Another nail in the 'escaped from evil lab' theory? The overall molecular structure of this virus is distinct from the known coronaviruses and instead most closely resembles viruses found in bats and pangolins that had been little studied and never known to cause humans any harm.

'If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness,' according to a statement from Scripps.

Where did the virus come from? The research group came up with two possible scenarios for the origin of SARS-CoV-2 in humans. One scenario follows the origin stories for a few other recent coronaviruses that have wreaked havoc in human populations. In that scenario, we contracted the virus directly from an animal — civets in the case of SARS and camels in the case of Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS). In the case of SARS-CoV-2, the researchers suggest that animal was a bat, which transmitted the virus to another intermediate animal (possibly a pangolin, some scientists have said) that brought the virus to humans."​

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

 

He's going to have a hard time getting anyone to believe he's changed his spots based upon these last two briefings.

 

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Also Judy Mikovits and others. Sorry for the screwed up link.

 

My son tested positive on Tuesday. I tested negative on Wednesday morning. Both of us are running low grade fever and have a mild cough. His fever is gone and I suspect mine will be gone by the end of this weekend.

 

Luc Montagnier, the French Nobel virologist is on the record that C-19 is engineered, did not occur naturally.

 

There were only like three plants, and one with old machines at a place that almost went bankrupt during Obama because after making the machines the market wasn't there.

To ramp up production, claiming they aren't doing enough, which 3M was already doing is why 3M got mad, to do more due to defense production means machines must be either made or purchased (probably from China). Ford made some PAPR, clunky, but the filters and hoods were not theirs.

Private enterprise simply can't do it, and then get shafted:

"BOWEN: Well, what happened is we rose to the occasion. Hospitals were calling. We bought a bigger factory. We built machines. We hired an extra 150 people. And then when it ended, the people that we helped went back to the foreign-made masks. So we ended up having to lay off all of those people, and it was a very brutal situation." https://www.npr.org/2020/04/06/8283...ufacturer-in-texas-is-inundated-with-requests

The only solutions are forcing people to buy domestic (at a higher cost, so the plants exist), maintaining a huge emergency supply and maintaining it, or building and then mothballing government owned socialist plants after pandemic and maintaining them.

Simply saying make more doesn't work.

 

Get well soon. After you could give blood maybe. I'm assuming everyone has it and don't want to get it because of age...

 

I would get tested again, maybe your virus titer wasn't high enough for a positive test the first time around. In any case, I wish you and your son the best, hope you get well soon.

 

I think I wasn't exposed until my son was contagious. I'm probably 3-4 days behind him. I didn't have symptoms until the day after I tested. He had already had symptoms for 2 days before he was tested. You're right that I tested too early. I'm quarantining anyway. Another test would just give another positive to the CDC. It wouldn't change my condition or treatment.

If ya'll are wondering, here is what I'm experiencing. A mild-moderate cough. My fever has been as high as 100.0F. If I take ibuprofen, my fever goes away and I feel perfectly normal. I try not to take medicine until my fever reaches 100 to let my fever work on the virus. My son let his fever get as high as 101.5, but his fever is gone now. We're just quarantining to protect others at this point.

 

I watched the entire first video and part of the second. If he knows HIV sequences were inserted in the virus, where's the proof? Show us where it was inserted.

 

Where's the evidence?

 

That is the point that I and others on this forum have been making. Heck, even if you get a positive result, with 5-7 day delays for results, you're probably no longer contagious. The mass testing with drive-up testing etc just for folks who want to know if they have covid, is a waste of time.

If you are sick as a dog and need medical attention, they will test you. I can test negative today but tomorrow I could be infected. Do we test everyone every day? When people know that they have the flu do they all run to the Dr to get tested? Of course not. They stay home, drink fluids and take over the counter meds to ease the symptoms and let the flu run its course.

Only a very small fraction of covid infected people need hospitalization. What we do need to do is test for antibodies so those folks could then donate plasma which is used to fight covid.

 

Fingers crossed for you.

 

That’s disappointing for that poor bloke. No easy answer I suppose.

 

Not trying to scare you, but, not just in covid, the serious cough is always the last to develop, and the last to go away. I got a pulse oximeter for the family, because reports indicated that many people went to the hospital way too late, when their blood oxygen saturation were already at dangerously low levels. The indicator to go to the hospital should be when oxygen saturation is dropping, not when you feel so bad that you almost can't walk anymore. Best of luck to you.

 

British Columbia (5m people) returns a test in one day, rarely two. Then they contact trace like crazy. That's why they stand here...



Just 17 people in hospital in the entire province.

Stores? Open. Restaurants? Dining in with social distancing. Bars? Open with social distancing. Parks, playgrounds, beaches? Open. Massage, beauty salons, barbers, physiotherapists? Open. Schools? Open in September.

 

Last I looked it up, tests performed in the pre symptomatic phase were returning over 50% false negative results. One analysis showed a 67% false negative rate on pre symptomatic individuals. Thanks for the updates.

 

Good idea on the oximeter. On Amazon...

 

Thanks. I may order an oximeter on Amazon. I'll up my concern if I notice much of a drop in energy. I walked a couple of miles last night around the neighborhood. I didn't get closer than 50 yards to anybody. My neighborhood is pretty spread out on minimum 1 acre lots.

 

Not trying to advertise, but mine looks like the one on the right. Got it shipped in two days, and it read 98-99% in all of our healthy family members, as it should. No guarantee about how precise it is when blood O2 is dropping.

 

A lot of people with COVID-19 have said they were surprised by their low O2 levels. Knowing you have a problem early could save your life. Cheap, readily available insurance.

 

Judy Makeupshitz. Is batcrap crazy