How many Covid deaths are acceptable

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  1. George Bailey

    George Bailey Well-Known Member

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    Solid Red states have no choice but to break away now. Leave the solid blue hell holes behind. Refound the United States of America!!
     
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    Yes, I understand the concept and definition of "excess" deaths.

    You can only count a body one time. If Fauci/Birx think we've assigned deaths to something other than Covid, and they want the death certificates changed to Covid to run the numbers up, then that death count is still "1". If people are dying of heart attacks, strokes, kidney failure et.al. at home for fear of going to the hospital, and I expect that they are, then that is to blame on the lockdown guidance, telling people to reschedule their medical appointments, and avoid the hospital. Those indirect deaths are called "genocide", the impact of government lockdown restrictions....at the suggestion of medical experts, funded by Bill Gates.
     
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    The rate of COVID deaths has been declining for at least a month.

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    The worst is far behind us. And most of those who died were on the verge of death anyway. It's time to end this abysmal war on normalcy.
     
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    The virus was unknown, therefore ruining society for months was the right choice.

    That's some impeccable logic. I cannot find any fault with it.
     
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    Case fatality rate (meant to say case fatality rate and crude mortality rate are different, but i won't edit above). The seriousness of Covid 19 is still apparent.

    Case mortality is still VERY high.

    Crude mortality rate:

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-mortality-risk
     
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    The "union" is a legal fiction held together by force, fraud, and inertia. It's time to formally dissolve it.
     
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    Wtf?
     
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    That's treason.
     
  9. George Bailey

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    According to who???
     
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    US Constitution, federal laws and state laws.
     
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    Yes, I acknowledged that you are calculating case fatality rate in an earlier post, because you believe it is relevant (even though the numerator and denominator changes every single day). I know what you are calculating.

    At least with crude fatality rate, the denominator does not change and deaths are more "certain" (even if we're assigning too many to Covid) than the completely unknown number of cases, since we are only testing people with symptoms and not the 100's of thousands of asymptomatic people or those with mild symptoms who choose not to get a test.
     
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    This might be one of the dumbest statements in internet history.
     
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    Rachel Maddow, probably.
     
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    You might want to take a gander at the first amendment. Let me know when you're finished reading it.
     
  15. Jacob E Mack

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    You ought to.
     
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    I know you are, but what am I?
     
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    Your response is a perfect example of the problem. If California or New York wanted to break off nobody in Nebraska would care, but if the shoe is on the other foot every socialist nut job in New York and San Francisco loses their mind and shouts Treason!!!!
     
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    California or New York would never break off.
     
  19. George Bailey

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    Of course they wouldn't! You have proven my point entirely!
     
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    Maybe the would and maybe they wouldn't. The important thing to remember is they have every natural right to do so.
     
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    Where in the Constitution??????????? Give me an exact citation.
     
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    Exactly. Anyone remember the post-WWI idea of "Self-Determination." It was used to break Europe into bits.
     
  23. Jacob E Mack

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    That is precisely what makes CMR a misleading measure, unless you had 20% of the country die, right? It's odd you think this is not a big deal.
     
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    No they don't.
     
  25. George Bailey

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    Cite your source handsome....
     
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