How much of Palestine should the Arabs get back? - <MOD WARNING>

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How much of Palestine should the Arabs get back?

  1. Gaza & the West Bank up to the Seperation Barrier

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  2. Back to the 1967 borders.

    23 vote(s)
    56.1%
  3. Back to UN Resolution 181 borders.

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
  4. The whole thing.

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
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  1. creation

    creation New Member

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    What are you talking about? Iron fist? What did the British do that you are so against?
     
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    It's funny that almost all Jewish based organizations, and media have gone nuts against Donald Trump, when Trump is actually pretty mild by Israeli standards.
     
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    If they did accept it which they do. Would you accept it,?
     
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    If I were Palestine, nodody would give a damn about what I would do. Their democratic elections were ignored by the West, who happen to dislike the results.

    Still, If I were Palestine, I'd be looking for a palestinian Ghandi to lead my people. A strong moderate, who would serve as an exemple. This Ghandi, with widespread civilian desobedience and peace sit-ins, would attract much more positive attention froim the rest of the world.
     
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    Indeed the lines are indefensible. But so are the other lines. So what's your point?
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_colonization_of_the_Americas

    Jeez, I hope you're satisfied. You're a descendant of European colonizers, you live on stolen property, by your standards you should return to France immediately
     
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    How about like hangings of Palestinian civilians for starters. Without a due process, mind you. How very humane and civilized of them Brits.
     
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    If we had the same problems with Mexico as Israel has with Palestine there would not be any Mexico. The Israelis have been very even handed when compared to the USA in similar instances. When we wanted land from the Native Americans, Spanish, or Mexicans we took it and killed anyone that got in our way. Not a pleasant portrait of history but accurate.
     
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    Indeed, but the U.S.A has not taken land in a long time, now Israel is another story.
     
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    Being 10 km wide in certain areas is indefensible. Additional buffers increase the defensiblility exponentially, every extra km matters.
     
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    The rules have changed since Europeans colonized America and tried to kill off all the Indians as we did with the bison on the plains.
     
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    Sure our expansion phase is over we are an older country. Israel is still very young and still in its expansionist phase. Most countries have a few expansionist phases at least the ones that plan on prospering. Russia is in one of its own as well.
     
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    Jew Julius Popper orchestrated the Selknam Genocide, which Selknam Natives were virtually wiped out.

    But, the Jew it's only a victim only.
     
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    I wish that was the case but the only rule is the strong take from the weak.
     
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    Popper didn't have a problem with genocide.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Popper
     
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    Well Saudi Arabia is still stoning women for adultery, hanging gays, banning Christianity, demanding female victims of rape to produce 4 male witnesses, paying off terrorists and fundamentalists, right?

    That said rules have indeed changed in the civilized world, that's why the number of Arabs, inside Israel, in the West Bank and Gaza has more than quadrupled during Israel's existence.
     
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    Puerto Rico wants to be a U.S.A territory, can the same be said about Palestine wanting to be an Israeli territory?

    Of course the U.S.A has nurtured Puerto Rico, while Israel has bought terror to Palestinians.

    It's no wonder why.
     
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    No, sorry - there's nothing in the link you found that is about the French plundering their way into North America. You'll have to do better. Lucky for you, I see your effort as a sign of good will, so I am going to suggest this as a starting place. I hope it will be inspiring in the vision of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    "Spanish civilization crushed the Indian; English civilization scorned and neglected him; French civilization embraced and cherished him"
    -&#8201;Francis Parkman
     
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    Eh, Crimea is majority Russian.

    But, are you aware of Putin being backed strongly to power by Jewish oligarchs, and Putin's daughter being married to Jewish Igor Rotenberg, the son of Putin's Judo partner Arkady Rotenberg?
     
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    Oh nose the Jew is behind everything! Come on man the world is a big place and there is plenty of wrong in it. If you have fallen for this jewish conspiracy thing then it is only because you prefer simplified half truths versus the complicated truth.

    Oh and Texas was mostly full of Texans when we up and stole it from Mexico. Frankly what ever helped the people at home sleep at night.
     
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    I don't believe Jews control everything, but they certainly have a disproportionate amount of power for their small size.

    Funny that you seem more supportive of the Jewish right to Israel, than the Texan right to Texas.

    Not a whole lot of differences there, but a key difference is Mexico invited in Anglo-Americans to help them govern against Native American raids, while the Palestinians did not invite in the Jews.
     
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    Mexico had part of Mexico sold to the U.S.A after the war, in the Gadsden Purchase
     
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    Might makes right in international relations. We had more strength then Mexico thus we got Texas. Israel is the same they are more advanced and more powerful than the Palestinians and will eventually take all of the territory. The real question is when and how bloody will it be.
     
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    The real inhabitants of the region didn't fancy Mexico very much being the Native Americans who raided Texas at the time.

    How come?
     
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