How Professional Liars Lie

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  1. edthecynic

    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    The claim:
    "Part time work increased after Obama Care.

    BUSINESS
    75 Percent Of Jobs Created This Year Were Part-Time Due To Weak Economy, Obamacare Concerns
    Reuters[​IMG]
    08/21/2013 12:59am EDT | Updated October 21, 2013

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/part-time-job-creation_n_3788365


    ECONOMIC NEWS
    77% of all jobs added in 2013 are part time

    Most jobs being added this year are part-time and low-paying, with many blaming Obamacare for shifting the jobs market as employers are looking to get around having to provide medical care.

    https://theamericangenius.com/econo...is-year-are-part-time-economic-woes-continue/"

    This false claim is a perfect example of how a professional liar lies with a half truth/whole lie.

    While it is true that PT jobs increased after Obamacare, it is also true that PT jobs are broken down into 2 categories by the BLS, "part time work for economic reasons" which I cited which would include workers whose hours were cut, the correct data to support or debunk your false claim, which DECLINED as I posted, and "Usually Work Part Time Noneconomic Reasons" which is the PT jobs that went up and has NOTHING to do with employers cutting hours.
    So by combining the two and then claiming that people who USUALLY work PT are working PT because of Obamacare is how professionals craft their lies for SUCKERS who are too lazy to check the facts.

    And the truth, according to actual BLS data, is PT jobs overall DECLINED in 2013 in both categories of PT jobs!!!!!
     
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    Speaking of people who are too lazy to check the facts, do you think no one will notice that you posted this exact same thread earlier today and that once again you've also failed to include any links to your claims that you say that the BLS states?

    Did you forget you posted the exact same thread shortly afternoon today?
     
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    Delaware judge denies Fox's motion to dismiss Dominion lawsuit

    A Delaware judge denied a motion on Thursday by Fox News to dismiss Dominion Voting Systems’ defamation lawsuit against the network.

    Dominion sued the network in March for $1.6 billion over its coverage of the 2020 election and claims that some members of the network made regarding Dominion.

    One of the claims pushed by some on Fox was that votes had been changed by Dominion through voting machines that Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez created.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...enies-foxs-motion-to-dismiss-dominion-lawsuit

    I sense a settlement coming. $1.6B. Ouch.
     
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    You're the one posting the thread stop projecting laziness on to me, if you're going to post a thread take the damn time to find a link to it.

    It's not anyone else's job here to run down the data that you're posting.
     
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    This thread may set the record for the fastest Mod Warning!
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Triggered!
     
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    Nah, not me. All I know is when I see a thread with this title, I think "What could POSSIBLY go wrong?" and then go grab the popcorn.

    Seriously, this is gonna be good.
     
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    Speaking of professional liars if you think anyone's just supposed to take your word for it...

    I know how to do things for myself like when I post a thread I don't count on others to do my work for me and then call them the lazy one.

    How long do you think it might actually take you to find a link to support your claims? Evidently you feel like that's too much work for you and everyone else should do it for you instead.
     
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    I notice you have not been able to refute a single thing I have posted but only whine because I won't lead you by the nose to the truth you so desperately want to avoid.
     
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    What would be better would be someone defending the lie that 77% of all jobs added in 2013 are part time when PT jobs actually DECLINED in 2013.
    Come on be brave, look up the data on bls.gov and make a fool of me, I dare you.
     
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    As you would know if you had ever used the BLS data site you can't link to the exact data chart, you get this, https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet.
    That is why the professional liars love the lazy and why I am trying to train the lazy to find the data themselves.
     
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    You should worry more about training yourself to put together a thread with the link to begin with.

    Now it's probably lost on you but the rest of us can see the ironic projection going on.

    You're sitting here calling other people lazy but couldn't be bothered to put that information in your initial post.
     
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    That whole thing about "honey and flies".
     
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    What does this have to do with the thread subject? Oh, right. Nothing.
     
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    I guess freedom of the press only works when your CNN or MSNBC and you've lost over 80% of your viewers.
     
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    How Professional Liars Lie

    ~ Mostly you see then in politics, on websites posting links and misinformation - or on the nightly " news" . :no: :blahblah:'
     
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    The link you only provided after being asked several times and calling other people lazy because you did not provide it to begin with

    And by the way just an FYI for you you can take screenshots of a PDF file and post them here.

    But I suppose you expect everyone to Wade through 10 sheets or so of data to find the point you're attempting to make..
     
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    The Court, reviewing the Complaint’s allegations, notes that it is reasonably conceivable that Fox’s reporting was inaccurate. As alleged, Dominion attempted to factually address Fox’s election fraud allegations. After Fox began connecting Dominion to election fraud claims, Dominion sent Fox executives and television anchors its “SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT” emails. Dominion’s emails, which contained analysis from election and related experts, tended to disprove the election fraud claims. Nevertheless, Fox and its news personnel continued to report Dominion purported connection to the election fraud claims without also reporting on Dominion’s emails. When Fox guests spread or reiterated disinformation about Dominion, Fox did not use the information Dominion provided to correct its guests or to reorient its viewers. Instead, Fox and its personnel pressed their view that considerable evidence connected Dominion to an illegal election fraud conspiracy.

    In addition, the Court notes that it is reasonably conceivable that Fox was not dispassionate. Given that Fox apparently refused to report contrary evidence, including evidence from the Department of Justice, the Complaint’s allegations support the reasonable inference that Fox intended to keep Dominion’s side of the story out of the narrative. Moreover, the Complaint alleges numerous instances in which Fox personnel did not merely ask questions and parrot responses but, rather, endorsed or suggested answers. Fox therefore may have failed to report the issue truthfully or dispassionately by skewing questioning and approving responses in a way that fit or promoted a narrative in which Dominion committed election fraud.

    https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...against-fox-news-over-2020-election-coverage/
     
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    That's not a fact.

    I've used the BLS.gov site numerous times, and had no problem linking to the topic.

    Characteristics of minimum wage workers, 2020 : BLS Reports: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Your claim gets at least 10 Pinocchio's.
     
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    HOGWASH!
    The final page with the monthly and yearly charts is NOT accessible by a direct link, you get this message if you try,
    "The database is currently unavailable.

    Your request was invalid for this Data Access Service. Please attempt other data requests. Thank you for using LABSTAT."

    Prove me wrong and link me directly to the FT/PT data charts.
     
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    You do your own work, you getting system errors and then claiming no one can link to BLS.gov charts and data, is the same category as most - have at it.

    Screen shot it, WITH the address visible. Maybe someone will take pity on you.
     
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    Your post would actually be amusing if it weren't so utterly wrong.

    If it's as you say, then posting the screen shot of the address would prove it, now wouldn't it?
     
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    Getting a little taste of your own medicine? Don't like it, do you.
    Kind of like the leftist medias reporting
    Trump is a Russian asset
    Trumps computer is linked to Russian banks
    All Trump loans are signed off by Russian Oligarchs
    The cop at the Capital was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher
    The Covington Catholic kids are all white supremist
    Kavanaugh is an alcoholic high school serial rapist
    Melania Trump was a paid escort
    Trump called Nazis very fine people
    BLM/Antifa protests were mostly peaceful

    The hypocrisy is laughable

    Yet there is a case against Dominion that is still pending in which Georgia claims the company's voting machines produce unaccountable, unverifying results.
    And Fox did not create allegations against Dominion. They only reported what Dominion was being accused of from other states.
    Not once did Fox make an allegation against Dominion.
    Fox even offered Dominion air time on their network to clear the air yet Dominion refused.

    Dominions case is worthless and has no teeth.
     
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    So now you're arguing that you're home link is completely invalid and proves nothing.

    You realize you're working against yourself here right?
     
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    He is the one that can't be bothered to prove his own claim and yet he goes around calling everyone else lazy.

    Projection so thick you can cut it with a dulled butter knife
     
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