About four years before the 1994 Northridge earthquake I attended an international engineering seminar in Orange County, Ca. It was a week long event attended by hundreds of engineers (mechanical. structural, maritime, electrical, etc) from all over the world. One of the events was asking a question, what the hell has happened to the construction industry in California and the south west ??? The quality of the work being conducted was crap. At the end of the week one Canadian engineer had the answer, they have carpenters (illegal aliens) doing the rough framing who never swung a hammer before they crossed the border and are completely clueless on what a nailing schedule is. For you who are also clueless what a nailing schedule is. -> http://homefixated.com/nailing-patterns-schedules/ Common Nailing Patterns and Schedules Fastrack to 1994, the Northridge earthquake. 70% of the buildings that failed were built with in the past twenty years and they failed because of faulty nailing. Buildings that were built by Americans before the illegal alien invasion were properly anchored to the foundation and the nailing schedule was observed. 80 year old buildings built by Americans survived the earthquake while brand new buildings built my illegal alien and immigrants failed. What California and the southwest was experiencing thirty years ago can now be found on construction sites from the Pacific coast to the Atlantic coast, from New Orleans to Chicago.
10 years ago, people in my area were singing praises to the "work ethic" of the illegals that were building houses, they were mainly doing roofing and brick work. It didn't last long - roofs leaked because of poor nailing and improperly installed ridge vents, as the shingles aged they turned different colors because the "roofers" mixed lots, the brick mortar was not mixed properly, brick walls were not anchored to the framing properly. Now when people have work done on their homes or have a new house built, they put in the contract that the work must be done by US Citizens or the contractor must pay a hefty cash penalty. Realtors even warn people about houses built by illegals. Not surprisingly, contractors stopped using illegals on any residential work, but I still some illegals doing commercial construction. The same happened in agriculture. Some of the farms used illegals but few do now because the farmers were shamed into getting rid of illegals and hiring Americans. My neighbor got rid of his illegals 4 or 5 years ago and hired an American full time, it means he pays more but he says he gets more work done and its done right. People say illegals do jobs Americans won't, that's total BS.
Uh...right, and there are no building codes and no inspectors to see work is done right. Oh, and Real Estate agents are incapable of lying to get you to use their friends. I've never seen or heard of a contract specifying the kinds of workers you can use and think it might be of dubious legality. The standard language says that all work must be done "in a workmanlike manner" which means following all codes ANY contractor will get away with what an inspector can be paid off to let him, it doesn't matter if he has illegals on payroll or not. Either give us links or admit you're making this up
Have you ever conducted a nailing inspection ? What's the inspector going to do, inspected each of the thousands of nails that was driven into a 2X4 ? I doubt it. Can you look at a nail head and determine if's a 12 b or 8 b ? Or if it's been toe nailed ? Today nail guns are used 98% of the time. Pretty hard to determine what size a nail was used if a nail gun was used. Seen it many times on contracts and especially military contracts that require U.S. citizenship to work on certain job sites and all military construction contracts require that all workers are legally allowed to work in the United States. Seen many construction contracts in the private sector that required that all the workers are legally able to work in the USA. Why not ? It's the freaking law. Some contracts even require that all the workers are union members. Correction, the numerous codes says that all work will be in a workman like manner, meaning looking neat. For example not having four # 00 conductors (electrical cables) all twisted, bent, etc. while running through a raceway. Or opening up a service panel and it looks like a spaghetti dinner of wires. The problem that was noticed in the construction trades with third world immigrants or illegal aliens, it's a monkey see, monkey do mentality. They watch someone or are told to use a 16 b or a 12 b nail but have no knowledge why it has to be a 16 b or why it has to be a 12 b nail or why it has to be tow nailed or not toe nailed. FYI: All national building codes, electrical, plumbing, HVAC, masonry, etc. are the minimum of the code to be followed. If you ever hear a contractor saying, "It's to code." that's a red flag. You probably have a contractor who's cutting corners to save a buck. Why do contractors hire illegal aliens ? To save a buck.
So how do you know all the houses aren't being properly nailed? Because all the ones that collapsed in the Earthquake weren't? Well duh.. that's why they collapsed, and how do you know those houses were built by immigrants? Workman like manner means looking "neat" instead of conforming to code...OOKaay,,,. I guess I was unaware of the rigourous meanings in these precise legal terms. Government contracts state many things which go without saying in private ones. Who "noticed" anything and how did they confirm that immigrants have no experience of building in their native countries. Come to think, where are those links I asked for?
Having delt with inspectors with both remodels and new construction. Most of the inspectors don't know the difference between their ass and a hole in the ground.
Not just corporations but the small business owner who's not corporated. For decades I have asked contractors why do you hire illegal aliens ? Why not apprentice carpenters or roofers, etc. They say they can't compete aginst the contractor who uses illegals. Is it greed or survival ? I would love to hunt down the first general contractor in southern California who hired the first illegal aliens to hang drywall. That was the first construction trade that illegal aliens were used in during the early 1970's. It's when the invasion from the South began. If you were around back during the day, dry wall crews consisted of three drywallers. Usally one hanging walls and two putting up lids. Five illegals would show up on a construction site and would tell the contractor they would do it for less. It took five illegals to be as productive as three Americans, But the quality was lacking.
true, same happening with foreign outsourcing we have to punish those hurting America or as you say businesses have to hurt America to survive
The CEO's of corporations argue that their main job is to see that the corporastion makes money for the stock holders. I've never seen this law or have I ever heard of a CEO going to jail when the corporation is loosing money. You would think an American corporation loyalty would be to America not some foreigners. I remember when there was a time, only U.S. citizens could incorporate a business in America. I remember when at least 51% of the stocks of a corporation had to be owned by U.S. citizens. Not anymore. Today so many American corporations have become multinational corporations like Walmart, Microsoft, Boeing and the list is long. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_corporations Remember back during the 70's and even the early 80's when Walmart use to advertise what you see on our shelves is made in the USA ?
they make money selling shares, because of this, the shareholders are more important then their employees or customers as the ceo's, ect get much of their pay from stock options
Back during the late 80's I had a German engineer tell me what went wrong in America. Lets say before the 1970's manufacturing corporations were run by engineers and those in sales. I asked why sales ? Because they know the product or service the company is producing and they know what the consumers want. Today corporate America is run by lawyers and accountants where the only thing that matters is the bottom line.
