How to get men to care about the environment

Some deforestation is caused by US Federal "land management" who then sells the wood for paper pulp at a profit.The thing is;They only want the Pine,but they just trash all the Oaks too.It really is sickening.

 

They also leave trees standing by the side of the road so it looks like all the timber is standing. Go in a little way and all the trees are gone. It's like they are trying to hide something.

 

Okaaaaay. How far are you pumping this water and who is paying for it

 

So Al Gore is trans?

 

Fact is the US has more forested land nowthan it did at the turn of the century but you leftist types love to blame us for the world's ills I know.


"In the United States, which contains 8 percent of the world's forests, there are more trees than there were 100 years ago. According to the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), "Forest growth nationally has exceeded harvest since the 1940s. By 1997, forest growth exceeded harvest by 42 percent and the volume of forest growth was 380 percent greater than it had been in 1920." The greatest gains have been seen on the East Coast (with average volumes of wood per acre almost doubling since the '50s) which was the area most heavily logged by European settlers beginning in the 1600s, soon after their arrival.

This is great news for those who care about the environment because trees store CO2, produce oxygen — which is necessary for all life on Earth — remove toxins from the air, and create habitat for animals, insects and more basic forms of life. Well-managed forest plantations like those overseen by the Forest Stewardship Council also furnish us with wood, a renewable material that can be used for building, furniture, paper products and more, and all of which are biodegradable at the end of their lifecycle."

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wi...-trees-than-there-were-100-years-ago-its-true

 

Okay....where are the trees that grew where the urban sprawl is now? You will never convince me there are more trees now. It just ain't so. Indiana used to be called the forest primeval. All those trees were cleared in less than 100 years. But I guess you can get some people to believe anything. I have long been an advocate of planting and growing trees. I am not against logging. I am against clearcut logging. Clearcut logging causes erosion and destroys the land. I have not only worked cutting paper wood but I have also replanted thousands of loblolly pine. I have poisoned 300 year old oak to make way for pine trees. I have planted trees, sawed them up, and built houses out of them. Now....from what I see on the trucks going by....they are at least harvesting hardwood now.

 

Your choice if you choose not to believe facts. There are not more trees here now than before European's got here but there is more now than 100 years ago and we are now growing more than we are harvesting. That is just fact!

 

100 years ago the forests were all but wiped out,so that's not saying quite as much as you might think it is.
Almost all the old growth was logged off.
That there is replanting going on is good.

 

The point you refuse to acknowledge is that we are going in the right direction while the third world is going the wrong direction.

 

Yes but the measurement used for a tree is any woody plant over 10 cm. in diameter. There are more trees than hundred years ago but world wide half as many. And the trees being grown are monoculture plantings. And yes, we are moving in a good direction. We just need to leave a few rather than clear cut.

 

Well,find out who is harvesting third-world trees and have them start replanting,if you can.
I'd say a safe bet would be Georgia-Pacific.
Another safe bet would be there's less of a demand for paper in this day and age.

 

When I planted trees here is how it was done. I rode behind a D9 bulldozer. The blade knocked down mature trees the land company thought were useless. We then over planted with seedling loblolly. We ended up with more trees but much smaller trees. Other fields that were bulldozed down, piled and burned were also planted with seedling loblolly pine. So we probably ended up with more trees there also. We also used to poison trees by injecting 2,4,D. because they were not economically viable.

 

Yes the safe bet for you is its Americas fault

 

That's tree farming for pulp and is a different animal than my life experience in western forest.out here junk trees go for pulp but most are for lumber to build the houses we all live in

 

Our farmed trees are either paper or plywood. But lately I have seen trucks loaded with oak, hickory, and possibly sweetgum. I did all the hard work years ago so I hope things are changing for the better. We get get paper in 15 years and plywood logs in twenty. You must be in Douglass fir or Ponderosa country.

 

Consumers obviously and ultimately pay for it as they do for everything.

 

A prime example ?? It's been depleted by 9%. Big deal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer

 

Its a big deal if you own land that can no longer pump water.

 

Then other water sources must be found, new crops must be planted, or the farms must be down sized. How many farms have run out of water ??

But this has nothing to do with global warming except for the fact that more water was used to produce corn for the economically bogus ethanol program than would have been needed for food. Once again the unintended consequences of global warming alarmists adversely affect US citizens.

 

We use block for houses 'round heanh.Pine for the trusses. though.yellow or Loblolly.
It's pretty much an absolute must.

 

Ya I knew this would come up. They make lumber out of yellow pine too. We delivered some to a Hammermill plant once.

 

Slash Pine is good.

 

The problem with yellow pine is it is so hard to drive a nail into. I don't own any air tools.

 

bah,20 oz hammer and some 16s
Or drill and wood screws.
The hammer I know were is is 16 oz.
I still drive home some nails if I need to,though.

 

I use them new torx screws now. I have a twenty ounce estwing. I don't use nailes much at all.