How to "Never Get Busted"

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  1. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    How to avoid the dangers posed by those who routinely forget that there is a 4th Amendment and believe marijuana to be on par with crack and heroin - Never Get Busted

    "Former police officer and decorated U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency officer turned anti-drug-war lecturer Barry Cooper's Never Get Busted documentary series is the episode of Cops you wish they'd air. After a decorated career busting large-scale drug trafficking operations, Cooper uses his vast accumulation of knowledge and experience working on the official side of the law to teach you how to do everything within your power to stay out of jail for drug-related charges of any kind."​

    [video=youtube;j-mU77Pie44]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&list=PL_IlIlrxhtPP4_ZTaZx50bAR P7jd65f7r&v=j-mU77Pie44[/video]
     
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    I have a fool-proof method of my own to avoid getting busted: Don't smoke pot. :p

    Maybe we will, in our lifetimes, see the day when pot is legalized, and the madness will end. Until that time, I will stick with my method of avoiding 'the man'.
     
  3. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Even though the video is centered around how to avoid getting busted for marijuana, he also provides an insightful description of the routine trashing of the 4th Amendment (unreasonable search and seizure) from his own experience. And that is being performed by more than just overly gung-ho Drug War enthusiasts.
     
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    I would say the only sure way to never get busted is to never commit a crime but the leftists are making everything a crime. Well, except drugs. They want drugs. And, except pedophilia. They seem to like that, too. But, everything else is being made a crime so you can be busted.

    Good luck.
     
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    It's only people who smoke weed who think it should be legalized.
     
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    You know how to never receive a speeding ticket which by the way is not skirting the law. Just do not speed.
     
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    Stupid statement. I do not smoke, but understand that all government laws concerning what a person does with their own body are unconstitutional. Only socialists who want to run everyone else's lives want to have laws restricting personal behavior.
     
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    It's only the people who are gay who want gay marriage legalized.

    It's only people who are black that want inter racial marriage legalized.

    It's only people with simplistic ideas and beliefs about the world despite the vast access to knowledge that want to watch the world burn.
     
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    That might be acceptable for some - but just as if government made guns illegal you'd probably go to the black market - I'm quite happy going to the black market for cannabis.

    It's a cost-benefit thing. If the hazard associated with getting caught multiplied by the risk of getting caught is less than the degree to which you value the illegal commodity, then you should break the law. Clearly you don't value cannabis more than the risk*hazard associated with the law, so you don't smoke it.

    Fair enough, I value it differently.
     
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    It's not really the threat of arrest that tips the risk/benefit scales for me. It's the chance of a career-ending random drug test by my employer. That is a threat to not only me, but my family. Not a risk I am willing to take. I haven't used pot for 30 years for that reason, but I would have, if not for the risk to my career and family.
     
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    I don't believe you. And people with COMMON SENSE are in favor of anti-drug laws.
     
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    Another stupid statement. It is also a logical fallacy which is proof in itself that it is a lie. There really no such thing as common sense. Sense is the ability to think logically, and it is extremely uncommon.

    This subject is a perfect example, anyone who favors laws outlawing drugs support governmental tyranny over the citizens and does not believe in the principals of liberty this country was founded on.

    The issue is not whether drugs are good or bad, the issue is does government have the power to tell the citizen what they may or may not do with their own body, and from a legal standpoint, where that power came from.

    The fact is, there were no Federal laws against drugs in the US prior to 1965, not because drugs did not exist before then, but because the government was aware that constitutionally, they were never given the power to tell the citizen what they could do with their own bodies.
    By the 1960's, the Federal Government was usurping multiple powers not granted them by the Constitution, and the drug laws were simply one more example.

    Before any government can legally make a law telling an individual what they may or may not do with their own body, they must prove that they have legal jurisdiction or legal ownership of the individual.

    The fact is that the Constitution was constructed to tightly limit, and to define the governments power and to ensure that the all powers not specifically given to government remained with the citizens.

    The rights of the individual to do what they choose with their own bodies, and to peruse life in the manner they choose is specifically understood as an inalienable right ( inalienable = cannot be taken away) in the clause of the Constitution guaranteeing pursuit of happiness.
    The caveat, to that is that it does not infringe on the inalienable rights of any other individual.
     
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    This makes me want to be more Libertarian.

    There are all sorts of things that are against the Law that shouldn't be.
    Law enforcement should stick to the real bad crimes (murder, rape, stealing), instead of making criminals out of all sorts of people who didn't really do anything wrong.

    Now it seems the police have an excuse to go searching anything and everything.
     
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    Lot's of profit to be made in doing so...
     
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    This is a video that every American should watch. Not because of the tips on evading arrest, but because of the insight to the mentality of the police who are out to violate the rights and freedoms of any and all Americans in order to further their personal careers.

    Law enforcement and the legal system in general has become a travesty and needs to be either overhauled or turned over to private entities.
     
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    You would not know the first thing about common sense. The right to do what you please with your own body is the first and foremost of all rights. Without that right you have no rights at all. Neither you nor government nor anyone else has the legal or moral authority to tell me what I may or not do with regards to my own body.
    The truth is you really do not want to live in a free country, you want a government to be your mommy and to take care of you and to set rules that dictate your life. You prefer slavery to freedom because you do not have the courage to take responsibility for your own life and your own decisions.
     
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    There is little commonsense in our anti drug laws. First off we are only anti some drugs. Common sense would dictate if anti drug laws were common sense, alcohol and tobacco would be illegal. But those drugs are legal. Do you propose prohibition on those? If not you must be a chain smoker and a drunk.

    Also we have entire stores dedicated to drugs, they are called, drug stores.

    Remember the difference between medicine and toxin is dosage.

    So doesn't Seem that your common sense has much sense.
     
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    Sadly one of the reasons many choose harder drugs like cocaine or the much worse synthetic marijuana is because of this. They don't stay in ones system nearly as long.
     
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    As the matter currently stands, Barry Cooper's advice runs contradictory to how the real world appears to work. It is difficult to believe that anyone can truly do anything to shield themselves against abusive police tactics, when stories such as this are common.

    http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/loc...le-after-cell-phone-video-uncovered/24039559/

    Had the officers engaged in standard obstruction procedures and seized the cellphone and/or deleted its data, Douglas Dendinger would currently be in prison, the matter coming down to his word against the word of five police officers and two prosecuting attorneys.
     
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    No, that's a lie.
     
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    Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.

    -- Albert Einstein




     
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