How tough is the law on employers who employ aliens?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How tough is the law on employers who employ aliens? They are obviously enabling the illegal alien problem, so they should be facing justice. Not to mention, they are exploiting poor and disadvantaged people for their own gain by employing slave labor. Surely it is very easy to find out who is doing it. For this reason, isn't it an insane risk to take? Are they being prosecuted often? As an Australian, I have no insight into this.
     
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    In my state, Iowa, we have what is called the Iowa Work Force. It is an agency set up to help people get jobs, that is run the state. All you have to do is go there give them any SSN and you can be hired in the state. They simply do not check to see if the numbers are valid or not. As long as a company hires from there they do not get in trouble. From what I can see we have just simply reach the piont here commonsense does not come into play any more.
     
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    What makes you think it’s easy? If the employers are doing it knowingly, they’re going to avoid attracting any kind of official attention and if they’re not, the employees will have some kind of fake or stolen identity paperwork. The only sure way to actively identify illegal workers would be on an individual case-by-case basis, which would take a lot of time, effort and money and unfortunately the agencies responsible for that kind of thing have lots of other difficult and expensive tasks to stretch their budgets across.
     
  4. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    I really meant to say easy for certain industries which attract a high volume of aliens, such as agriculture. I would've thought that it would be pretty easy to conduct raids on suspected workplaces.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It’s possible but not necessarily easy. First you’d have to determine which employers were “suspected”. There’d then be a whole load of time, money and manpower required to carry out raids and further time and resources assessing the status of all the workers. They’re not going to want to take this kind of action against lots of innocent employers and legal employees given the disruption to their businesses and lives and the overall costs to the state if they’re not actually catching many illegal workers as a result.

    I’ve no doubt they do exactly this kind of thing (in fact I think I read of them increasing under Trump) but it still boils down to the fact that it isn’t an easy issue to deal with. Like so many issues laymen don’t understand, if it was really as easy as they imagined it wouldn’t still be an issue. :)
     
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    There is absolutely no consequences to hiring illegal aliens. :)
     
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    Surely you can't be serious.
     
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    The employer can get in trouble from federal goverment if they don't hire or if they fire someone who's social security card is not legit.
    And yet people lay blame to our companies.
     
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    In a sanctuary city you can get contacted about discrimination if you don't hire illegal aliens. :)
     
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    There is a government agency, I forget which at the moment, who is opposite ICE and they go around to businesses asking them why they didn't higher illegal aliens.

    There are agricultural seminars for farmers explaining how to deal with alternating visits from this agency and ICE.
     
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    And people wonder why the USA is in such a mess, when there's THIS level of disunity between Washington and the states.
     
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    I'm not so sure of any of that. I doubt anybody would do any work for "slave labor" wages.

    I don't think it should be up to an employer to be police.

    Would you work for nothing or very little? If no than you have all the insight you need.
     
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    So they all get paid fairly?

    Shouldn't they obey the law though?
     
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    I doubt they would work for something they deemed unfair.



    okay yes enforce no.
     
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    It's so Tough that you never hear anything about it, and would you?
     
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    People know who hires illegals. Illegals stand on certain corners waiting for a day job. Its no mystery.

    Where I live, people starting shaming employers who hired illegals. People who wanted a house built of renovated or repaired starting putting in contracts that only citizens could do the contractual work. Farmers started publicly identifying others who used illegals. Now there are very few illegals. There were several churches downtown that were specifically for illegals, those churches are gone because there are not enough illegals.

    There was no giant round up of illegals, no raids, no government expense. It was all very simple. Just stop going to businesses that use illegals, and make it known who those businesses are.

    And nobody went out of business because they couldn't hire illegals and pay them cash under the table.

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    Very tough, in my country.

    Besides, people don't like patronising companies who employ illegals, because it implies that they're unscrupulous cheapskates. Why would you want to engage such a company?
     

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