How we will build Trumps Wall.

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  1. JoeSixpack

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    Sending them home with mommy and daddy is not punishment. Making them citizens, is punishment, for the tax payers footing the bill. You want to legally adopt a child from a impoverished stricken country, I find that very commendable. Go through the legal channels and order yourself a dozen or more if you can afford it, you will certainly have my admiration, but the anchor baby clause is a mockery of the original intent of the 14th, and should be stopped immediately if not sooner.
     
  2. Questerr

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    We don't send children to prison when their parents are convicted of crimes.
     
  3. JoeSixpack

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    1st offense they get deported, second offense, the child should go to next of kin, back where they came from. It would be nice if you address what I type and not wander off into the fantasy world of irrationality. Where did you get that I said kids need to go to jail? Anywhere?
     
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    You want children to be punished along side their parents when they have committed no crimes. That's the same as sending kids to jail when their parent gets convicted.
     
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    No I don't want children to go to jail if they have committed no crime. Deporting criminal trespassers and their children to their home of origin is not punishment, it is a complimentary warning. Don't come back.

    I want illegal invaders and their children to be deported as they should be. Families should stay together

    I want people to stop misinterpreting the constitution because of a misguided emotion laps of integrity.

    I want the pathway to citizenship, for outsiders to be earned, not A REWARD BECAUSE OF A CRIMINAL ACT.
     
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    A person born in America has a home of origin of AMERICA.

    How can someone be an outsider when they are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing born here?
     
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    There people who are legally here who cannot claim citizenship even being born here, so obviously someone here illegally shouldn't be allowed to claim citizenship either, because of some flighty emotional abuse of authority/technicality. The 14th was never about rewarding criminals and their offspring, it was about slaves who were brought here against their will and born here. If you don't know the actual intent of the 14th you need to actually read up on it. It has been misinterpreted for way to long.
     
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    How is having protected rights a "reward"? You have an incredibly low view of rights and citizenship.
     
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    Handing out rights to undesirables and criminal trespassers is destructive to our sovereignty, not to mention the fact that the 14th amendment didn't give these criminals rights, activist judges who blatantly misinterpreted the original intent, and get their palms buttered by the rich/elites that want to exploit them for cheap labor did.
     
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    Rights are not "handed out". They are inherent. Seriously, you have a really (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up view of rights.
     
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    Seriously you have a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up view of the actual constitution and how it is supposed to work. The 14th was never intended to be used as a slave labor incentive for criminality. Jesus get a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing clue will you. It was about slaves. Black people who were brought here against their will, and reproduced. It has absolutely nothing to do with how it is being misinterpreted.
     
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    What American citizens are turning into slaves due to the 14th Amendment?
     
  13. JoeSixpack

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    You are seriously a clueless lost soul. :blankstare:

    The misinterpretation was originally started so that robber barons wouldn't lose their slave labor force, and it has been kept up to offer an incentive for illegal aliens to get their foot in the door, with their anchor babies. You really haven't got a clue what you are indirectly supporting & perpetuating, do you? People like you are why the rich are getting richer, the country is going to hell in a hand basket, and why the two party scam is such a powerful criminal enterprise. Just one of the useful sheeple that makes the last 40 years of decline a reality. You should be proud of what you have rot. :roll:
     
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    Cut the rope off the anchor. Don't attack innocent children and punish them for the crimes of their parents.
     
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    Walls are passé; they are soo, last millennium.

    We need to market our products better to get willing market participants.
     
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    They know no difference, and should grow up with their own family and friends where they came from.

    I'm not attacking anybody, I am protecting our sovereignty and the original intent of the constitution which is being used for destructive purposes. There is no anchor baby clause, only manipulative maneuvering by rich/elites to keep cheap labor available in this country. You are being played, like a fine fiddle.
     
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    We had the best products, unfortunately crony capitalism forced the working class into debt so they could only afford cheap products (AKA crap), made by a slave labor force that adds nothing to our economy, but finances communism and the dictators of the world.
     
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    How is our sovereignty attacked by recognizing the rights of children born in the US?
     
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    I'm in favor of stopping the invasion of the country, re-establishing our sovereignty, and in making the lawbreakers who have benefitted from their crimes to pay for it. A significant part of Mexico's economy is helped by their citizens illegally in our country. They should be made to pay. They have years of payments due to us from the benefits their citizens have given them while breaking our laws.

    On the other hand when we start throwing out the invaders it will mean less transfer money available to tax so other taxes should be put on Mexican products until the wall is paid for. Win/Win for all of us. Stops the invasion, reduces the cost illegal aliens pose to the economy (schools, criminal justice, tax credits, healthcare, degraded communities, lower wages for Americans, lost jobs for Americans, etc.)
     
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    Oh good grief. They were brought here in the criminal manner. They are not, and should not be recognized due to a deliberate misinterpretation of the constitution.
     
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    If they are conceived and born here, how were they brought anywhere illegally?
     
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    By their illegal parent trespassing on our soil.

    Do you have any understanding of the original intent of the words in the 14th amendment? If you just want to ignore that factual evidence, then you don't give a dog's squat about the constitution. That is really all that is important here. Your emotional guilt ridden attachment, to the child is commendable. Adopt them, and go through the proper procedures, otherwise they need to go home with their parents.
     
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    So you are arguing a person can be party to an illegal scheme before they even existed and that they should be punished for it even though they had no control over it?

    We have numerous ways to take care of orphan children in the US and I pay taxes to support many of them. But I'm not heartless like you, so I oppose deporting US citizens to countries with murder rates higher than warzones.
     
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    we could be generating revenue from currently illegal labor, simply by making it as easy as paying a market friendly fee for a work visa, for anyone.
     
  25. JoeSixpack

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    there is no 'punishment' in keeping a family together. Even if they are criminals in our country a child deserves to be with his family back where they belong. Punishment is forcing taxpayers to fund their criminal venture, and reward them with free (*)(*)(*)(*), after disrespecting our laws and our sovereignty. You have a irrational warped sense of what is right and wrong. I'll just accept your silence on the 14th as a skirt since I know you are not as stupid as you are pretending to be. :wink:

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    You going to allow those criminals who hire them now to continue to under pay them so that is profitable for them to exploit them too? If not they will be no use to those criminal employers and a new batch of illegal trespassers will be needed.
     

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