How would "equal pay" work out?

Suppose you have a male and female who are paid hourly or salaried.
The male works 44 hours per week (the average for males) and the woman works 34 hours per week (the average for females) and has more flexible hours so she can get her kids.
They have the same degree and same recent years of experience, though the female was out of the industry for over a year about 3 years ago.
Does equal pay require they be paid the same hourly rate?
Can the hour rate account for which employee's schedule is more beneficial to the company?
If they are both salaried, does the company have to pay the female the same annual salary as the male, even though she works fewer hours per week?

 

The pay rate should be the same but based on hours worked so if she works less her salary should be less.

Given that everything else is equal of course.

 

Salaries for men are based on the job, the performance, the productivity (performance), and the need.

The idea, then, is to based the salaries for women on the same criteria. Make it "unisex". One "list". One scale. Apply it to both.

 

Suppose we’re talking about two air traffic controllers. The man has been on the job 35 years. The woman has been on the job four years. Both are graded “above average” in their work performance.

Should they be paid equally? For example, should both be paid $65,000?

In real life, the man may be paid $80,000 because of his time served and the woman may be at $50,000. Should we eliminate this discriminatory gap?

 

Probably not. Would a man who has been on the job for 4 years be paid the same as one on the job for 35 years? Why is this so hard for the right to understand? LOL!!!! Didn't you digest my post?

 

This is why there is a wage gap ...seniority on the job. The only way to eliminate the dreaded wage gap is to make these two individuals’ pay identical.

 

Seniority should factor into it.

After all, you have to earn your raises based on performance over time so no, the pay should not be equal. But a woman who's been there 20 years should be making much more than a man who just hired in.

 

The starting pay should be the same. After that it's all about merit.

 

Given that women without children are earning more than men in the same field, maybe we should start looking into closing that wage gap too.

 

Do we also stamp out the wage gap between men who work engineering jobs in STEM and the women you usually take careers in child care?

 

same degree, same qualifications, same hours?

same pay rate.

 

Who gets the raise or promotion first, the guy working 44 hrs or the woman working 36 hrs?

 

Job performance means nothing then?

 

yes, if you keep getting shitty reviews you are not entitled to a merit raise

 

Well, since the woman can do twice the work in half the time as a man, of course the man will get the promotion first.

Do you realize how limited your question is? No two people are going to have the exact same abilities, knowledge, attitude or capabilities or production rate, regardless of how many hours they work. It is virtually impossible to pay them equally because there are so many variables. I haven't figured out why people make such a big deal out of this. Like little kids, always worrying what someone else is making. Geez.

 

You have to make a case for it.

I am advocating for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

Most labor who are not that motivated, would not have to work.

 

I've only met 3 women in my field. One had to quit because of back problems. The other 2 are new hires from the military and the jury is still out on them.

The first woman was very smart and did the technical side of the job very well. She had a chip on her shoulder and got into an argument during training with the instructor. This instructor was a genius and totally shut her down with his knowledge and experience. That kind of gave her a reputation and her attitude helped the reputation live on. She went on to do OK in the Chicago area. Not many people liked her on a personal level, but she did her job. I never had problems working with her. Her downfall was the physical side of the job. Sometimes we have to replace dozens of batteries, weighing up to 110 lbs each. Using a mechanical lift is not always possible and she developed chronic back problems. I guess the same thing could happen to a 140 lb male doing the same job.

My point is that physical limitations get in the way of performance. The employer has to account for the possibility that a female employee is going to have to take maternity leave and sometimes they won't come back to work from it. Women aren't physically as strong as men and men aren't as affected by hormones.(menopause) Women are typically better multitaskers, have better manual dexterity, and from what I've seen, handle sleep deprivation better than men. It all depends on the job at hand.

 

Requiring a work ethic is Socialism, not Capitalism.

 

It is extremely difficult to find any two people who are equally qualified on every level. Might be impossible, unless you’re talking a factory worker flipping widgets.

Even raises. Guys are more aggressive so they tend to get the raises quicker. The lie that a boss looks at the woman and just says NOPE, is typical B.S. Theres always more to the story.

 

especially in modern times.

It is simpler to pay the least motivated, to not work.

 

Pay should be commensurate with productivity. Nothing else should enter into the rate of pay. Actually the only people who really earn their pay are salespersons who work strictly on commission.

 

Salesmen don't earn anything without having a product to sell. There are many ways to earn a paycheck.

 

But the "wage gap" doesn't account for experience. So you could have two police officers of the same rank (a male with 25 years experience and a female with two years experience) and the left will say there is a gender pay gap for two people doing the exact same job.

That's where the "Women only earn 80% of what men earn in the same job" comes from.

 

To say the people actually making the product or managing the business don't earn their pay is idiotic.

Don't you feel foolish?

 

wait, so you wanna pay women less because of what MIGHT happen in the future?