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  1. ToughTalk

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    Blue state gonne blue state.

    Why the **** was this guy not in jail having been sentenced to 30 years back in 2015. Yo, progressives.

    IT AIN'T WORKING.

    Stop turning America into a third world shithole.
     
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    Crime is the punishment to make you afraid and beg for more dependence. This is the lever progressive democrats demand to ensure that citizens cower. You must be afraid and become willing to spend your hard earned income on them to "fix" it. The irony is that democrats will continue to demand your income in taxes to pay for their tyranny. It's a vicious cycle.
     
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    Reading through this person's record, one does wonder why he was on the streets. But first of all, it is ridiculous of you to indict all the "Blue States," over one case. Secondly, the just exited governor of Maryland, was Larry Hogan, who is Republican.

    I think what this case suggests, is that merely punishing people who break the law, does not stop recidivism. It is an argument for changing our approach to focus more on trying to rehabilitate criminals. This is not to say that there will not be some who will never be fit to live in society. But many of those, taking up space in our prisons, don't need to be there, for our safety, or in order for them to "learn their lesson," obviously. The reason that Billingsly was released, was likely due to overcrowding in Maryland prisons, as exists in the prisons of most states, Blue & Red, across the country. More prisons, is not the answer. If it was, one would need explain why so much larger a percentage of the U.S. population need be incarcerated, than of the citizens anywhere else, around the world (including those led by oppressive regimes, as in China). We have 5% of the world's population, and 25% of its prisoners. That is what is, clearly, not working.
     
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    Qatar has lowest crime rates in the world. But then Qatar will cut of your hands if you are caught stealing.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country
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    In my opinion, things that breed crime;

    -diversity
    -culture
    -poverty

    Look at all those countries tops in low crime rate.

    Are they diverse? Nope. Do they have a strong culture with strong moral values? Yup! With diversity comes a clash of cultures with different moral values. And I'm sorry to state that not every culture is equally good.

    Diversity...is not showing to be our strength.
     
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    In the exposition of your thesis, is noticably absent any analysis of the "poverty" aspect of your short list. I completely agree with that one. And I know that wealth disparity in the U.S. is among the widest gaps in the world. This is a worldwide phenomenon, however, so we are not alone, and some of your low crime nations, will no doubt also suffer from the problem.

    However, changing our country's "culture," is not nearly so practical a goal, as would be lessening the gross imbalance between our country's richest, & its poorest. Likewise, does poverty not seem the more logical place to look to affect change, rather than our "diversity?" How could that possibly be significantly changed? Are you advocating the deportation of tens of millions? Would this also include "African Americans?"








     

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    Pretty sure crime rate in America was higher in 1986 than it was in 2016. So I'm not sure the wealth inequality is the culprit. Differences in culture and values? Ya. That's gonna cause some issues.

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    And yet, you would assert that crime has risen since 2016, yeah? And coincidentally with that rise has been a spike in wealth concentration at the very top. Obviously, the disparity alone, is not the only influence, upon the crime statistic. I'm pretty sure that America also became more diverse-- another one, from your list of causes-- during the time period you depict falling crime, on your graph. So I guess that means diversity has no effect?

    I am not contesting that you may be right about diversity-- but because it can lead to prejudice & discrimination, hence greater poverty. I am saying that you are definitely right about that, driving crime rates-- it was you who proposed this! Since you offered no suggestions as to how to change either the "culture" or "diversity" in the country-- which admittedly, are difficult if not impossible tasks-- I wonder why you did not address any of your comments, toward your own listed causation of crime. Your thesis would seem to support the introduction, for example, of a UBI, universal basic income. Do you support this, as a means of addressing poverty, and thereby reducing crime rates?
     
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    Crime has spiked. Mostly after Covid. And certainly with aid of dipshit progressive policies like teaching people to see race and that blacks are oppressed.
     

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