Human rights violations in North Korea

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  1. bobov

    bobov New Member

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    Well, he's no more nutty than his father or grandfather.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    His Father and Grandfather never possessed Nukes and even though the U.S. Military is more than capable of handling anything thrown at it....when a country PUBLICLY STATES....they intend to launch a Nuclear Missile and destroy Washington...which North Korea could not do as they can't even place a Nuke on a Missile never mind make a Missile that will fly as far as D.C. and even if they could the U.S. Military has in this day and age...MULTIPLE LEVELS OF MISSILE DEFENSE....and we could easily bring such a missile down.

    But....THE NUT JOB ACTUALLY SAID IT!!!

    IF....we were not 100% CONFIDENT we could deal with any Nuclear issue that the North could send our way...we would have ALREADY....attacked and destroyed North Korea....and the FUNNY THING IS....China would be RELIEVED!!!

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  3. bobov

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    Agreed.
     
  4. sharik

    sharik Banned

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    i've already proved it. read the entire thread.
     
  5. sharik

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    you can't read English, can you? Putin has nothing to do with all this, for its the West that wants the USSR back.

    quite the contrary, it is the West dependent on having Russia as a market for its exports, but Russia can ban evey import at any moment and go independent like once the USSR did.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Well, I would imagine that the fact that your jails are crammed with death-row inmates awaiting execution proves my point, wouldn't you say? If capital punishment-in any form-were a deterrent your death-rows wouldn't exist, n'est ce pas? Public hangings didn't prevent murders or any of the other crimes they were punishment for having committed.
     
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  8. sharik

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    that's the amount of contracts signed only, but actually world goods don't even have to see the US shores. America only holds the law in world trade, as far as the World acceds to it, but once her expansion has stopped, the World will mutiny.
     
  9. BethanyQuartz

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    The North Koreans don't have anything resembling socialism and communism, which is based on from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. North Korea is a fascist state with a ruling elite and a huge population of people so poor they can't even feed themselves.

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    Invasion is as feasible as it was in Iraq. If North Korea ever finds resources America wants that it can't get easier and cheaper elsewhere, we'll invade fast enough.
     
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    No. As I've stated in other posts; it's a stalemate because a war of that calibre would involve enormous casualties for both the ROK and DPRK.
    My reasons are explained if you read on.

    And the Iraqi army was a pushover.
     
  11. AboveAlpha

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    LOL!!!

    You know...I am more than happy to listen and read and consider concepts and ideas other members bring forth even if I don't personally agree with them....but it is another thing when a member like yourself is just posting nonsense and has nothing to back up your ridiculous statements.

    FACT....as the U.S. Economy goes....so goes the Worlds Economy.

    AboveAlpha
     
  12. Shangrila

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    Do you really think the NK army wouldn't crumble even faster than the Iraqi? Sorry, but it just doesn't make sense, and please note, I am in no advocating any military action.
     
  13. sharik

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    that is unfair, America has cheated the World into submission, but this won't last long.
     
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    I would advise you not condemn my statement as being nonsensical when you yourself have yet to elaborate upon a position that supports the opposite.

    But just for you, I'll explain.

    Well for a start they can call upon 1.1 million serving soldiers as well as another 8 million reserves paramilitaries and militia.

    Plus several thousand tanks, many are obsolete but numbers can be just as potent.

    If you're talking about motivation however. Well the fact is that the DPRK has complete information control and most if not all have known little outside of Korea.
    So if the state believes that the US and the ROK are evil doers e.t.c. then they'll believe it.

    It's quite likely that many of the militia would desert but they would still be able to contribute.
     
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    Sorry, you are wrong twice.
    As was proven historically, N. Korea has typical communist government (see Russia, China).

    US will never invade NC (unless it will be invited). Have you ever heard about nuclear weapons?
     
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    I don't see how a government can be called communist that doesn't adopt 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need'. Unless you'd like to claim that Communism predates Marx and must be separated from Marxist Communism?

    As for the US never invading N Korea because of nukes, it wasn't willing to invade before N Korea claimed to have them, either, but was awfully eager to go into Iraq and bully Iran over WMDs. Seems to me the real reason we didn't invade as soon as N Korea started its nuke talk has to do with a lack of resource we consider worth going in there for.
     
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    1. Marx was theoretician, practitioners of communism know better: human nature too greedy and “to each according to his need” will not work, at least not without party leaders who will get according to their need while others work according to their abilities. This is the only achievable form of communism.
    2. There were no N. Korea invasion because of USSR and China.
     
  18. BethanyQuartz

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    1. Then it isn't communism. And I argue capitalism can never succeed for the same reason. Human greed. I'm for a mixed model myself, much like Norway's.

    2. I concede you could be right on that one, though China was displeased over our invasion of Iraq and I don't think Russia or China is pleased about us threatening Iran.
     
  19. Pro-Consul

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    Vietnam is still a communist country and so is the PRC

    Also there was an invasion to the North as this lead to both MacArthur's sacking and the entry of China into Korean war.
     
  20. Alien Traveler

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    Exactly.
     
  21. DrewBedson

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    No you did not prove anything but rather stated general falsehoods stating the press and Murdoch were this and that with no factual back up which, by the way, is why I asked you for proof.
     
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    I highly doubt that.
     
  23. AboveAlpha

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    Yeah....we are cheating the world by buying all their products as the worlds largest consumer nation and worlds largest importer and worlds largest Manufacturer of goods.

    So....we should STOP? buying other countries products and destroy the entire World Economy?

    Is THAT what you are saying?

    GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  24. snakestretcher

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    Yes, Putin (via Prime Minister Medvedev) has already said that the events in Ukraine are a "threat" to Russian people and Russian interests. This, in itself, is threatening language and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we were to see Russian intervention in Ukraine.
     
  25. AboveAlpha

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    Like I said....Putin will wait a bit because of the Olympics and then he will send in Russian Special Forces to make it look like it is part of the Ukrainian population itself that is fighting against the removal of the Russian back Ukrainian leader.

    AboveAlpha
     

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