Hypothetical - If individuals are born with homosexual traits, would you...

Interested to see what people think.

Would you want your child to be born a homosexual? Consideration in the realm of individuals being born so.

Voice your opinions here.

 

aww what the hell lets make em bi and see what happens not sure its genetick thoug could be do to exposure to hormones in woumb i hear

 

I think Id let the nature decide in this area. But assuming I had to genetically engineer my kids, then bisexual it is.

 

Never would I alter my kids to conform with my warped beliefs. I know certain people would do that, but I would let my child be born and I wouldn't give a crap if they were gay or straight.

 

I read something today, I may find myself quoting it a lot.

Let us finally consider how naive it is altogether to say: "Man ought to be such and such!" Reality shows us an enchanting wealth of types, the abundance of a lavish play and change of forms — and some wretched loafer of a moralist comments: "No! Man ought to be different." He even knows what man should be like, this wretched bigot and prig: he paints himself on the wall and comments, "Ecce homo!" But even when the moralist addresses himself only to the single human being and says to him, "You ought to be such and such!" he does not cease to make himself ridiculous. The single human being is a piece of fatum from the front and from the rear, one law more, one necessity more for all that is yet to come and to be. To say to him, "Change yourself!" is to demand that everything be changed, even retroactively. And indeed there have been consistent moralists who wanted man to be different, that is, virtuous — they wanted him remade in their own image, as a prig: to that end, they negated the world! No small madness! No modest kind of immodesty!

Morality, insofar as it condemns for its own sake, and not out of regard for the concerns, considerations, and contrivances of life, is a specific error with which one ought to have no pity — an idiosyncrasy of degenerates which has caused immeasurable harm.

We others, we immoralists, have, conversely, made room in our hearts for every kind of understanding, comprehending, and approving. We do not easily negate; we make it a point of honor to be affirmers. More and more, our eyes have opened to that economy which needs and knows how to utilize everything that the holy witlessness of the priest, the diseased reason in the priest, rejects — that economy in the law of life which finds an advantage even in the disgusting species of the prigs, the priests, the virtuous. What advantage? But we ourselves, we immoralists, are the answer.

~ Nietzsche

In short... no. I'm an "immoralist" and an "absurdist" within reason, so experience life however which way you want.

 

I hope they don't discover that being a liberal is a genetically-determined trait.

 

Homosexuality is natural and not only limited to our species , as an evolutionary trait it has/had/will have to serve a cause in the past, the present or the future . If you are keeping track of the sexual dimorphism in Homo group it is more than clear that with the pass of time it diminishes , i am not going to make a big speculation here but hey , what if ?

 

got a fun idear lets tinker around tll we make them both genders at once can you be hetero or homo sexual in that case?

 

Why in the world would I alter my kids to be straight? The idea is absurd.

 

Depends... is there a shortage of people on earth, such as to require the maximum amount of reproduction possible?

In all honesty, though, it's a tough one... while I don't think you SHOULD necessarily be gay or straight, you do have less to worry about if you're straight... from social pressures & stigma at least. To the extent that I'd want my kids to be happy, I might consider it. That said, the whole idea of modifying your kids genetics to fit your ideals, on any given number of characteristics, is somewhat troublesome. And I don't know that catering to the stigma is the correct way to handle the situation.

 

The world certainly isn't underpopulated; that's a fact.

 

even though it's hypothetical the question is failed. How does a newborn determine with whom he/she likes to have sex?

At birth, the child is nothing more than "my child", no more, no less. When they become sexually active how would it change my feelings toward him/her if they prefer sex with the same sex? Why do some people get so hung up on the sexual act? It does not define us in any way shape or form.

 

There is the presumption or premise in the OP, which suggest that science knows how to detect/alter something which determines a person's sexuality. That technology doesn't (as of yet) exist.

So, as the title of the threat states, the question is "Hypothetical". The question is fine.

Do you remember when people didn't know the 'gender' of their children BEFORE birth? It is a bit like asking: Would yo want to know the 'sex' of your unborn child (before we had the technology to know). It would have been hypothetical.

I have little doubt that science WILL find a way to alter a person's propensity toward a certain sexuality (or the other); it is just a matter of research and time.

That is an important but different question. Still, the FACT is that some people would be DEVASTATED for their child to be 'homosexual'. As a matter of fact, I never told my parents that very thing, because I didn't want to hurt them.

That is another great question; even worthy of its own thread.

Many would disagree, but I'm with you.

 

WTF!!!! I bet they either knew or could have cared less when you talked about it. You are their child. Every time another parent wants to complain to me about

this or that which jimmy or janey did and they are mad I ask; take a moment and imagine that you just received a phone call saying that your child was found dead.

All of a sudden the little things are put back into perspective.

About finding out which sex: the surprise is nice on the first one but with subsequent ones it becomes business like because you want to know what you need to keep and what can go to Goodwill.....

 

Yes,as a bisexual myslf i am offened by this thread,imagine if we were all bisexual as most humans already are ,no its genetic engineering of Humans and that is just plain NOT ON!

Hitler and Mengle'dabbled in it and see what we had to do to them .

beyond,exposing the potential Fascists who tick yes ,this thread has no other purpose .

Ok,who voted YES ,we need to "TALK".

 

I know you see it your way, I didn't see it your way. I wasn't about to take the chance either way.

 

well, that stinks that you felt that way but I bet they still love(d) you

at the end of the day, it's our kids and we just hope they don't turn out to be crooks or murderers.

 

I do not think it's just dna, think if your spirit was in the opposite sex would you start to feel sexual about your new opposite sex?

 

It's a risk some just don't want to take. The cases where your parents would completely disown you may be few and far between, although they certainly exist... I know several of my friends that were booted out and disowned.

More typically, though, the concern is not wanting to hurt your parents and not wanting to start the drama that ensues after the fact. I "came out" at 17. My mother, for example, was accepting... but went off the emotional deep end for months as a result of it. Cried for months, had angry fits, and was almost impossible to live with... but it was all concern for my happiness and well being. "I bet they still love(d) you" is a pleasant silver lining, but for a kid already struggling with coping at school and coping with themselves, coping with their parents while their parents are themselves coping with it is an awful lot of coping.

"Coming out" is not a singular event... it's a process that is repeated over and over with each family member, friend and otherwise concerned party. The fear of hurting them and the fear of them hurting you is stifling. And you have to do it, over and over and over again. It gets easier, but until then you live in the fear of the unknown where it's easier just to say nothing.

Perhaps this is irrational thinking, and in many cases it's unjustified... but we are just kids when this happens, and it's often easier to deal with the devil you know than the devil you don't, as they say.

 

you do understand that being gay is selfish. Your job is to give us grandchildren

 

Jerk lol.

Add that to the list of reasons to say nothing

 

i like the idea of genetick enginearing merging with tecknoligy and artifiel intelagince and life thoug horrible things could be done with that but the idea of not taking controll of what we are just seems sad

 

um before i go off was that a joke im just bad at telling a lot of the time

 

from both me and Jeff the answer is of course, lighten up francis as sgt hulka would say.

Come on now, we as parents bust our humps to raise kids and all we ask is for grandchildren. Why you may ask, because we want you to go through exactly what we did!!!!!

Seriously, you should never be afraid to talk to your folks. They love you more than you can imagine with the exception of some of these idiots we see on the news. We want your butts and any of your friends at the table on Thanksgiving. We don't want you away on holiday at XMAS, we want your butts with us!!!!!

We just want to know that you are thinking of us because we're always thinking of you and like it or not, you're still our babies and that's how we will always see you. Do you really really really think we give a rats behind as to who you diddle? If you are a gay male we don't want you to get AIDS. We want you around to bury us, not vice versa. Sure, maybe for a fleeting moment our "ideal world" gets shattered because we really do want grandkids (we incessantly harp on all of our childless kids btw) but we just want you to be happy and to spend time with us. We want you to call us. We want you to let us know your plane landed safely, or you arrived from the 4 hour drive. Worry cannot be turned off.

Have I laid the guilt trip on you enough............call your folks, they miss you.

 

The key word above is "should"; but that suggests that 'everyone' is in the most favorable familial situation or of an ideal mindset overall.

In reality, the questions have to come back around to why a child WOULD be exceedingly afraid to tell their parents (especially in the Baby-Boomer generation). That generation (mine) and the previous one has largely shaped what society allows or disallows. I know that some see things differently (especially those now under 40 years of age or so), but those above 50 tend to see things concerning homosexuality very differently.

Again, there is much more to be considered than you are relating here. Remember, you're talking about literally DASHING the hopes/dream of certain parents. It should not shock you that scores of people will not take that well, especially in a nation like "America" where fundamentalist Christian 'religion' defines so many things.

More than a few parents and families literally REJECT members due to homosexuality in this society. Due to the internet, I became more aware that is not so in more advanced societies (such as those in Europe). People have a very different view in nations such as England or France.

Why wouldn't parents raising children in THIS culture NOT care? Of course they care.

That's NOT the only concern. I suspect that MOST American parents who raise their boys as "BOYS"... do not look forward to their child 'fracking' or 'blowing' some other boy. It wouldn't bother me, but it would MANY others.

Really, that isn't the major concern... when some 17 year old boy tells his 30-something-year-old parents that he's gay. I think you need to be more realistic about the REJECTION that virtually all homosexual kids have to face AS THEY ARE GROWING UP. What, do you think that kids do not SEE (close-up) how their parent speak about other homosexuals (relatives or otherwise)? Really, it's a bit like the occasional 15 year old White kid that brings home the serious African American mate... but far worse.

Some parents can/do handle well knowing their child is homosexual; MANY DO NOT. (This is well-known.)

Nah. People know better and have more concerns than you are addressing. I agree that what you say it the way it SHOULD be... but alas, it is not.