"I accuse that woman there of having had an abortion!!!"

We've all made a terrible mistake....SMW....is pro-choice.

 

It's interesting we've had only two "contradictory" responses.

1. SMW...who doesn't or can't dispute the premise...just wants to argue against discussing the premise.

2. Rapunzel.....who essentially admits the premise is true, but seems to be saying "So what? Don't care if we can't enforce the ban on abortion that I want."


Have we stumped the "pro-lifers" here???

 

Haven't we always ???

 

SMW isn't pro-life, she's anti-doctor.

But I will give her points for her ninja-like evasion skills. Maybe we should start calling her Black Mamba.

I've also never heard someone against abortion argue that abortion is fine as long as it's not performed by a doctor in a controlled medical environment. Somewhere, Ronald Reagen is surely crying.

 

This ^

A better topic than any overdone pro-abortion rant.



My guess? Knowing this will be removed anyway.... Thread count must = self-satisfaction.

 

And your comment shows that Anti-Choicers never have an answer as to how illegal abortions would be prosecuted or proved...and have to go off topic with insults....they have NOTHING else...

 

Interesting she's from Texas....where they claim their new law about clinics "isn't about shutting them down, but making them safer".....yet?

The "pro-lifers" cheer when Texas clinics close down due to the law.


It's ALMOST as if.....the "pro-lifers"...are dishonest, huh????

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Do YOU think abortion is "murder"? Answer some direct questions directly....and see the hole you'll dig for yourself rather quickly.

Wanna try? Or...not so much?

 

No "pro-lifer" yet on this thread....has offered up a satisfactory answer to the OP's premise or questions.

Not one.

 

Most pro-lifers don't even read your 47 created threads each and every day.

The fact that no one cares to discuss your silly hypothetical, aside from the usual abortion forum dwellers, should not come as a surprise to you.

I didn't make it past the opening "Another a potential....".

Those, who don't hold high standards in grammar surely gave you the high-fives you were after?

 

I propose hypotheticals based on what "pro-lifers" CLAIM they want...or even PREDICT will happen......a ban on abortion, either State-by-State, or even Nation-wide.

The fact they can't answer basic questions about their UTOPIAN dreams....proves it can't happen or they have no ability to think beyond their simplistic rhetoric.


BTW, if I did 47 threads a day in SUPPORT of your politics or ideology...you'd have no problem with it. So I'll take THAT criticism for what it's actually worth.

 

What you claim they want.

Strawman... meet thy strawleader.

You're nowhere near the type of human being I would want representing my ideology.

Thank you for not doing so in 1 thread... let alone the 46 others. Per day.

 

Let's start simple...and see how far you go-

Micketto....do "pro-lifers" want to ban abortion nation-wide? Yes or No?

 

Your usual issue, the one that gets you laughed at so much, is your complete over-generalizations and strawmen.

I'll bite, for as long as I can stand the lunacy....


do "pro-lifers" want to ban abortion nation-wide? Yes or No?

Some? sure.

>>>Bypass the profanity filter removed<<<. I have a lot more respect for a woman who doesn't abort. Period.

My turn?

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You are off topic again...and NO woman cares whether she has your respect or not.

 

You're the one , along with all the other Anti-Choicers, who is stumped. You haven't even touched on the OP.

Your one and only answer was "Sure, some"... to a question about anti-choicers wanting to ban abortions....that's not an answer....how many is "some"? And how would they answer the questions in the OP?

Why do you think it's lunacy to carry a thought through to it's ramifications/outcome ?

If one is against abortion, one must want it banned so if it's banned how would you determine if there was a crime, how do you obtain proof, if found guilty what should the sentence be. ??

Nope, Anti-Choicers aren't going to get off the hook with just whining about abortion and claiming it should be illegal and then offering up no real solutions...

They are STUMPED....

 

Then you ADMIT...my OP is a valid question to those that DO want abortion banned?

Sure....do some "pro-lifers" KILL people?


Eric Rudolph

Scott Roeder

John Salvi

Michael F. Griffin

Paul Jennings Hill

James Charles Kopp

Michael Bray

Shelley Shannon

Francis Gerald Grady

 

Speaking of dishonest, do you have anything to back up these ridiculous claims?

Oh wait, I forgot... you're still playing make-believe.

Nevermind.

 

Now back to the OP.....if you have a lot more respect for a woman who doesn't abort, HOW do you identify those women you respect and those you don't? Do you think it's possible you've been showing respect to some women who had abortions in the past? Maybe we should require women getting abortions to have a scarlet letter A tattooed on their foreheads so people like you wouldn't make a mistake and accidentally respect someone that you have prejudged to be unworthy of respect.

It is estimated that 43% of all women will have a abortion sometime during their reproductive years. That's a lot of women to disrespect. Maybe it would be easier to just not respect any women.

 

I'd take you a bit more seriously if you could show me where I have disrespected anyone for having an abortion.
Which is quite different than respecting those who chose not to (before you go and put your usual twist to my words).

Until then..... zzz

So... who here has ?

Anyone willing to admit it ?

 

Do you have a source for that 43%? That's a little hard to believe.

 

Would Planned Parenthood lie ?

 

It's not hard to find.

http://www.barf.org/articles/0100/

Many people make the mistake of thinking only very few (or perhaps very bad/stupid/fallen) women have abortions. That's where they'd be wrong. One of the little known realities is that abortion, in America, is all around you. The Kaiser Family Foundation came up with one approximation: "It is estimated that 43 percent of women in the U.S. will have an abortion by age 45 and that more than 30 million have had an abortion since the procedure was legalized in 1973 (based on 1992 rates.)" (Fact Sheet: Abortion in the U.S., October 2002)

That's an estimate that 43% of American women will have an abortion by age 45.

Abortion, far from being rare or some isolated event, is a very real and NORMAL part of a large portion of American women's health care.

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/rebekah8370/

43% of women will all have at least 1 abortion by age 45.

 

Lol.... 1992 called.. and they want their statistics back.

You may want to spend some time away form internet blogs and look into actual, credible research.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

I'm sure you've heard of The Guttmacher Institute ?.... (may be a bit more credible than your "Biblical America Resistance Front" blog... no offense)

So.... 30%.

You're right... it was easy to find.
And you're welcome.

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Don't forget the "at least", but I'm willing to give on this one. Somewhere between 30% and 43% of women will have an abortion.

There are other sites with the same stats, but admittedly a pro-life site like this one might lie to make their point.
http://keeplifelegal.com/abortion-stats/

and this one: http://www.anglicansforlife.org/content/after-30-years-abortion…are-women-better

and this one: http://blowthetrumpet.org/AbortionStatisticsWorldwide.htm

You can see there are plenty of sites using the 43% stat, and it is, afterall, only an estimate.

 

Which claims?

1. Texans claimed their new law was NOT about "closing down clinics"....that was an obvious lie.

2. Micketto has now admitted that "some" "pro-lifers" DO want to see abortion banned...so the OP is not "make-believe"....but a logical question that stumps them (and you and him, though you are loathed to admit it).

3. The OP still remains unanswered by the "some" out there among the "pro-lifers" who want to see abortion banned.....and the reason? They CANNOT answer it...but find it hateful to admit they live in a land of "make-believe" that it can be done.

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BTW, if you don't believe that even "pro-lifers" have abortions?


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