I believe we now have conclusive proof that Trump caused 1/6

Do you want to talk about how Obama and Hillary fought the war against ISIS? How they refused to give lethal arms to Ukraine to fight off Russian backed rebels trying to take over the country, but wanted to charge Trump for not giving them weapons? Stupidity rained supreme between those two.

US Pilots Confirm: Obama Admin Blocks 75% of ISIS Strikes
Nov 20, 2015 · U.S. Pilots Confirm: Obama Admin Blocks 75 Percent of Islamic State Strikes ‘We can’t get clearance even when we have a clear target in front of us’


Sorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine at all
https://nypost.com/2019/10/09/sorry-joe-team-obama...
The aid in question is lethal military assistance that the Obama-Biden administration refused to give Ukraine. In 2014, after Russia annexed Crimea and began arming separatists in eastern Ukraine..

 

Disagree totally. Your evidence is totally flawed. Just because a bunch of people tried to contact Trump to stop the riot does not mean he cause it.

1. In my profession if someone calls me because trades are not going to market it does not mean I caused it. It just means people think I can fix it.
2. If you call a plumber because your sink is leaking it does not mean the plumber cause it. It just means you think they can fix it.
3. In the movies when Lois Lane is falling off a building and is yelling for Superman it does not mean he pushed her off the building. It just means he can save her.

 

I heard Superman doesn't like girls anymore... Lois needs to get close to Batman.

 

By your same reasoning Ted Wheeler, the Mayor of Portland, incited the riots in Portland because he definitely did nothing to stop them for MONTHS. Same with Kate Brown who is Governor of Oregon. They both could have stopped the riots. They never did. Didn't even attempt to until this year. Same goes for every other Govenor/Mayor that did nothing to stop riots that happened over multiple days in a row.

And if his fans did what he told them to do then this would not have happened: LINK: Trump booed at Alabama rally after telling supporters to get vaccinated (nbcnews.com)

 

You have been mislead. You are referring to Superman's son, Jonathan Kent. Superman, (Clark Kent), is married to Lois Lane and Jonathan is their son. Also he still likes girls too because he is bisexual.

 

We all do stupid things in our life, Trump is no exception. But I'll put Trump's three years in office before the virus hit us against Obama's eight years.

 

That is fine......as that is your choice and preference.
It has nothing to do with how much Trump influenced/ caused / or orchestrated Jan 6. The rioters responded to words from the man......... or their interpretation of them. They wanted to help him over turn the election. They and he behaved in an UNDEMOCRATIC way........... ignoring the principles of election that have been the standard of this nation. It was as if this group was under some "spell" from trump and would do anything he inferred,, suggested or insinuated........... to give him what he wanted. They behaved like a violent cult............... and/ or the way people do in less developed nations. What folks seem to fail to see is that Trump's own behavior / verbalization make it "OK" for them to be aggressive............as he speaks like a crude bully. with limited vocabulary ...........and acts like one too. Bully's are "authoritarian" in behavior and thinking as they have to have their way. They can't face losing..........let alone doing it in a graceful manner.(as is called for in a developed / democratic nation)

More evidence is coming out to confirm how Trump ignored the rioters (while being mesmerized by them on TV).......until he had no choice. More text message have been revealed today........and they are from Republicans (who later tried to minimize the event......)

( and they are the "party of principles "???

 

That is another topic and has noting to do with the events of Jan 6. Is it meant to be a distraction??

 

I don't care if Trump says "dees", "dems", and "does". He kept my family safe and prosperous, gas prices down, meat prices down, didn't embarrass my country as Biden did in Afghanistan, didn't open our borders wide, and got the vaccine ready so fast that Biden could get poked before he was Inaugurated.

Let's review:

Trump lowered my taxes (I was able to buy a jacuzzi!)
Biden left Americans and allies abandoned in Afghanistan
Trump actually got SIGNED peace accords in the Middle East.
Biden makes COVID restriction mandatory for Americans but not for illegal immigrants.
Trump gave the military its first real pay raise in years.
Biden seeks to restrict the second Amendment.
Trump clobbered ISIS (captured their largest city – Mosul and their capital city - Raqqa.
Biden armed the terrorist Taliban.
Trump allowed terminal patients to use drugs not fully tested that might offer hope.

Biden has allowed the opioid disaster to grow and grow by opening the borders.
Biden killed pipeline jobs and US energy independence.
Trump got us back in space on US-made rockets.
Biden got 13 US Soldiers killed at the Kabul airport.
Trump made us energy-independent.
Biden opened our border... WIDE OPEN
Trump supported the 2d amendment
Biden indoctrinates our kids with racist "Critical Race theory"

Biden has done nothing to support the police as our cities experience tremendous growth in murder and violence.
Biden is causing outrageous inflation.
There was no “supply chain” disaster under Trump as there is under Biden.
Gas was about a buck and a half cheaper under Trump.
People weren’t being banned from social media for speaking their minds under Trump.
Parents counted under Trump. Under Biden (and you, by the way)… they don’t.

gees... the list is endless

 

You are indeed....a very loyal supporter..........as is your choice. But this thread is not about comparing him to others. It is about Trumps culpability.

 

"the fun of chaos." exactly what "fun" is chaos? what the bully tells the principle "we were just having fun"

 

The "fun of chaos" is everywhere. Look at the guy in Baltimore jumping up and down on a police car, laughing, as the neighborhood burns around him. Look at the smile on the guy's face that knocked down the elderly man on the street in the Kenosha. Look at the laughter in the crowd as they burned Minneapolis.

 

"pro abortion killers? " name a few .

anti abortion murderers are heroes to trump followers.

Eric Rudolph Homepage (armyofgod.com)

Has Trump’s White House ‘resurrected’ Army of God anti-abortion extremists? | openDemocracy

 

do you think this indicates that we live in a healthy society? that "western civilization" represents the best that our species has to offer?

 

There is no fun in chaos......... but bully's seem to think so. as the seem to see "fun' in destruction.

It is a less than civilized mindset.

 

Trumps inaction during the take over of the Capital shows he should never be allowed to be President again

 

absolutely !!! He was more intersted in WATCHING the riot on TV than performing his duty as POTUS..........

All he had to do is get out into a public forum .........and make a calming statement to denounce the violence. By not doing so........he was implicitly supporting it.

 

Western civilization is the best... but its in decline

 

Pro-abortion killers" Here's some:


"Anti-abortion murderers"???? Folks who oppose abortion SAVE LIVES... by definition. They OPPOSE killing babies.

I never heard of "The Army of God". Are they some hate group from the Bronx? Los Angeles? Seattle? Do they burn and loot like Antifa? Are they anti-American like BLM?

 

"Takeover"? LOLOL... yeah... they took each Congressperson captive.... took over the offices and published decrees. They used guns and nukes. Yeah... I saw that movies years ago. That wsn't real.

The reality is that UNARMED, DISORGANIZED folks climbed into the capital and actually did nothing to disrupt or interfere. Even the phones always worked.

 

"The reality is that UNARMED, DISORGANIZED folks climbed into the capital and actually did nothing to disrupt or interfere. Even the phones always worked."

sad, but wrong, wanna try again

 

Exactly WHAT did they disrupt? Tell us. What communications were destroyed? What members of Congress were killed? (Crying like a baby doesn't count.) Please, tell us? What essential documents did they destroy? What computer files were erased?

The answers are all "none". So there was no disruption, no interference. If you know some SPECIFICS please let us know.... but please... be SPECIFIC. (Libs can never be SPECIFIC about anything in their broad brush, generalized, accusations... because they aren't true.)

 

the certification, Pence and members of Congress had to be rushed to safety, did you forget?

 

What do you mean by "certification"?? Yes, Pence, et al were protected... that's SOP for a lot of things, even bad weather... its commonplace... totally unnecessary as it turned it... but always best to play it safe... AO Cortez was evacuated and she wasn't even in the building! And she was so traumatized that she's STILL in psychotherapy... there's no accounting for snowflakes...