I bet this shooting story disappears quickly

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The shooting in Calif will probably be dropped from the news quickly. The shooting was committed by a muslim vegan female in a gun free zone with a hand gun, in a gun control state.

    Since the MSM cant blame AR-15s, men, the NRA or any of their whipping boys, as I say look for the news to die quickly.
     
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    Prolly as quick as any other car accident story, or drowning...Your right it was not committed with an ar-15, or any of the weapons legislation is looking at restricting, and fortunately no one was killed aside from the shooter.

    Perhaps cause they did not use an m16 right? Is it cause they couldn't get their hands on one?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh and she was a PETA member too. So are liberals going to say PETA has blood on their hands like they accused the NRA???????????
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure doesnt fit the profile that want to blame does it. The fact she was a muslim makes it a hot potato!!!
     
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    Ah, but you CAN get your hands on one in CA. The 'assault' weapons ban CA has is toothless, as one CAN get an AR-15 type gun provided it doesn't have two or more of the following: collapsible butt-stock, pistol grip, flash suppressor, grenade launcher mount or bayonet mount.
    And no one, thankfully, being killed had nothing to do with the gun. Virginia Tech shooter used a 9mm and .22 handgun to kill 32 and wound 17. It's all about where a person is shot. If you shoot a person with an AR-15 in the foot, they will live. It's not JUST about the gun.
     
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    Most shooting stories die a quick death in the USA. Shootings are so common that a nut job has to kill a lot of people before the press maintains any interest. After all, there are an average of 13,000 gun homicides in the USA per year. That's far too many to keep track of. As Trump would say if he were able to blame all of those killings on Democrats, SAD.
     
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    totally, its already off thr main news story. Move along nothing to see here.
     
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    She was cra cra but she did have an element of hotness to her.
     
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    The length of time a mass killing remains a top story on CNN is directly proportional to the color, sexual orientation, and political beliefs of the shooter.
     
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    Evidence? I don't watch CNN, so I have no idea and must depend upon you to back up your claim.
     
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    I am a conservative so anything I say will not be believed by you so you will have to rely on the Google machine, or ignore my comments entirely.
     
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    Or what they THINK are the political beliefs of the shooter. Recall Jared Loughner? That was played up as a rabid rightwinger until the leftist MSM discovered that ol Jared had a disturbingly leftist bent to his private activities. Then all of a sudden it just wasn't news any more.
     
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    <Mod Edit- Rule 4>

    Look! This woman lost went into a rage for no good reason, shot and wounded three people and then killed herself. It's the type of thing that happens several times a day in all over this country where anyone who loses her temper can easily grab a gun and go shoot someone. It's so common in the United States that it seldom makes the local news. The reason it made the news this time is because it happened at YouTube. In a gun-happy country, murder is so common as to seldom be newsworthy.

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    It was gone within 6 hours. The media is trying to erase it from our memory.
     
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    No one dead but the shooter and only three wounded.

    Had it been an AR-15 there could well have been dozens shot
     
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    Semi-automatic magazine-fed rifles are still legal in CA, but she chose a handgun.
     
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    The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 people with a handgun.
     
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    Bayonet lugs are not banned in CA. That was part of the 1994 Federal AWB which sunset in 2004.
     
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    Unless PETA is somehow pro-gun, I don't see how they're relevant in this or any other shooting case.
     
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    Hardly


    Records show that Loughner was registered as an Independent and voted in 2006 and 2008, but not in 2010.[38][39]

    Loughner's high-school friend Zach Osler said, "He did not watch TV; he disliked the news; he didn't listen to political radio; he didn't take sides; he wasn't on the Left; he wasn't on the Right."[18] A former classmate, Caitie Parker, who attended high school and college with Loughner, described his political views prior to 2007, prior to his personality transformation, as "left wing, quite liberal."[40] [41] The tone of Loughner's online writings and videos from immediately before the attack were described by The Guardian as "almost exclusively conservative and anti-government, with echoes of the populist campaigning of the Tea Party movement".[42]

    Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center said that Loughner's position that currency not backed by a gold or silver standard is worthless was a "hallmark of the far right and the militia movement."[43] Jesse Walkerof Reason expressed deep skepticism at the connections drawn by Potok.[44] In the aftermath of the shooting, the Anti-Defamation League reviewed messages by Loughner, and concluded that there was a "disjointed theme that runs through Loughner's writings", which was a "distrust for and dislike of the government." It "manifested itself in various ways" – for instance, in the belief that the government used the control of language and grammar to brainwash people, the notion that the government was creating "infinite currency" without the backing of gold and silver, or the assertion that NASA was faking spaceflights.
     
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    Two handguns, two locations. And he chose and prepared the second location pretty effectively.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting
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    Almost two hours after the first killings, Cho appeared at a nearby post office and mailed a package of writings and video recordings to NBC News; these proved to be of little investigative value to authorities. The package was postmarked 9:01 a.m.[25] He then walked to Norris Hall. In a backpack, he carried several chains, locks, a hammer, a knife, two handguns with nineteen 10- and 15-round magazines, and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition.[6]:88, 92

    About two hours after the initial shootings, Cho entered Norris Hall, which housed the Engineering Science and Mechanics program among others, and chained the three main entrance doors shut. He placed a note on one of the chained doors, claiming that attempting to open the door would cause a bomb to explode. Shortly before the shooting began, a faculty member found the note and took it to the third floor to notify the school's administration. At about the same time Cho had begun to shoot students and faculty on the second floor. The bomb threat was never called in.[6]:89[26] The first call to 9-1-1 was received at 9:42 a.m.[27][28]

    According to several students, before the shooting began Cho looked into several classrooms. Erin Sheehan, an eyewitness and survivor who had been in room 207, told reporters that the shooter "peeked in twice" earlier in the lesson and that "it was strange that someone at this point in the semester would be lost, looking for a class".[29] At about 9:40 a.m., Cho began shooting.[6]:90 Cho's first attack after entering Norris occurred in an advanced hydrology engineering class taught by Professor G. V. Loganathan in room 206. Cho first shot and killed the professor, then continued firing, killing nine of the thirteen students in the room and injuring two others.[6]:90 Next, Cho went across the hall and into room 207, where instructor Jamie Bishop was teaching German. Cho shot at a student, then at Bishop, then at the rest of the students, killing Bishop and four students; six students were wounded.[6]:90 Cho then moved on to Norris 211 and 204.[27] In both of these classrooms, Cho was initially prevented from entering due to barricades erected by instructors and students. In room 204, Professor Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor, forcibly prevented Cho from entering the room. Librescu was able to hold the door closed until most of his students escaped through the windows, but he died after being shot multiple times through the door. One student in his classroom was killed.[30] Instructor Jocelyne Couture-Nowak and student Henry Lee were killed in room 211 as they attempted to barricade the door.[31] When Cho broke through the barricade and entered the room, Air Force ROTC Cadet Matthew La Porte charged the gunman and died after taking heavy fire in an attempt to save lives (he was later posthumously awarded the Airman's Medal for his actions).[32] According to the Virginia Tech Review Panel's report, eleven students died in room 211 and the six students who survived all suffered gunshot wounds.[6]:91 However, one of the survivors, Clay Violand, stated that he played dead and escaped without injury.[33]

    Cho reloaded and revisited several of the classrooms.[27] After Cho's first visit to room 207, several students had barricaded the door and had begun tending to the wounded. When Cho returned minutes later, Katelyn Carney and Derek O'Dell were injured while holding the door closed.[66][67][68] Cho also returned to room 206. According to a student eyewitness, the movements of a wounded Waleed Shaalan distracted Cho from a nearby student after the shooter had returned to the room. Shaalan was shot a second time and died.[69] Also in room 206, Partahi Mamora Halomoan Lumbantoruan may have shielded fellow student Guillermo Colman from more serious injury. Colman's various accounts make it unclear whether this act was intentional or the involuntary result of Lumbantoruan being shot.[70][71][72]

    Students barricaded the door of room 205 with a large table after substitute professor Haiyan Cheng (Chinese: 程海燕; pinyin: Chéng Hǎiyàn[73]) and a student saw Cho heading toward them. Cho shot through the door several times but failed to force his way in. No one in that classroom was wounded or killed.[74][75][76]

    Hearing the commotion on the floor below, Professor Kevin Granata took twenty students from a third-floor classroom into his office where the door could be locked. He then went downstairs to investigate and was shot and killed by Cho. None of the students locked in Granata's office were harmed.[77]

    Approximately ten to twelve minutes after the second attack began, Cho shot himself in his right temple with the Glock 19. He died in Jocelyne Couture-Nowak's Intermediate French class, room 211. During this second assault, he had fired at least 174 rounds,[27][78] killing thirty people and wounding seventeen more.[6]:92 All of the victims were shot at least three times each; of the thirty killed, twenty-eight were shot in the head.[79][80] During the investigation, State Police Superintendent William Flaherty told a state panel that police found 203 live rounds in Norris Hall. "He was well prepared to continue on," Flaherty testified.[81]

    During the two attacks, Cho killed five faculty members and twenty-seven students before committing suicide by shooting himself.[82] The Virginia Tech Review Panel reported that Cho's gunshots wounded seventeen other people; six more were injured when they jumped from second-story windows to escape.[6]:92 Sydney J. Vail, the director of the trauma center at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital, said that Cho's choice of 9 mm hollow-point ammunition increased the severity of the injuries.[83]
     
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    Were any of the victims armed?
     
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    This was a VERY violent suicide...so any time someone claims that suicide statistics should be separated out from gun deaths...remind them that they are full of shyte.

    And a suicide like this with a semi-auto magazine fed gun is a deadly thing
     
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    Were any of the victims armed?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being pro 2nd amendment is not relevant either. Blame the shooter, not the gun, or someone else.
     
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