I don't believe in the intelligence community and neither should you.

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    I have to call it like I see it, we're not getting good intelligence out of certain sectors of the intelligence community. Namely, the DHS and the FBI are failing America right now.

    I'm calling out Mr.Cullinelli and Mr.Wray. This isn't acceptable. It's not acceptable to release a report insulating a 'threat' of right wing extremists, not have a tangible threat to actually point to and then essentially make an exaggerated death ratio.

    This is not intelligence. It's even less than guesswork. This is choosing what to focus on regardless of whether you should focus on it or not.

    Making matters worse, it contradicts your own statements in late 2019 that there hasn't been an increase in hate crimes just an increase in notifications but the percentage was unchanged.

    Are you going to officially change your late 2019 assessment or are you just full of ****?

    This isn't a Trump thing, if HRC were POTUS, this intelligence failure would outrage me too.
     
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    Looks like they hit a nerve..
     
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    Trump picked the leaders, so prob best not too as they have a loyalty to Trump

    Trump even gets people to lie about the weather... Trump wants you to have less trust in government
     
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  4. PatriotNews

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    I have no idea what Christopher Wray thinks he's doing but come on man, common sense. There aren't any right wing groups rioting, pillaging, looting and burning down cities night after night. It's Antifa and BLM.

    And to pretend that voter fraud is not going on in spite of more and more reports of ballot harvesting, ballots being discarded, last minute rule changes to the elections and many other fraudulent activities is inconceivable. This election will end up in civil war if there is no confidence in the validity of the election.
     
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    The intelligence community is the single greatest threat to the freedom of common people everywhere.
     
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    What report are you talking about? I'd expect an actual report to explain the basis for it's conclusions, that's essentially the point of releasing a report in the first place.

    Also, isn't it a little ironic to complain about intelligence agencies of not backing up their statements when you're offering nothing to back up your statements? ;)
     
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    Yeah, the way they ripped through South America and installed dictators
     
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    My distrust of government is already at 100%. Nobody is going to increase it.
     
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    Whatever Complex stooge originally coined "intelligence community" in place of what it is, the "state secret police" should get a bonus stipend and a favorably situated dacha.

    That -any- adult in the U.S. with a pulse still believes that those agencies "serve" the public in any other way than "well-done" is amusingly naive. They serve only 1. THEMSELVES, and 2. their masters in the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex. Luckily even the sheep are catching on as the excesses have become so obvious.

    Decentralize, preferably ABOLISH the lot.
     
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    Decentralize? There are already 14 different agencies. How many do you want? Reducing the number would make more sense. Reducing government from A to Z makes the most sense.
     
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    The "intelligence community" has been rotten for many years, and that certainly includes the political branch of the DOJ, the FBI. Even since its inception with J. Edgar Hoover it's been a form of Gestapo.
     
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    I voted for Trump because of my lack of trust in govt.

    Trump is sortof starting to fit into that mold, mostly because of his continuance to hire folks based purely on the credentials they acquired being elitist establishment shills (at least he fires them promptly, but then hires more of the same...) but he's still miles away from being one himself.
     
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    I said If HRC were equally fed bad intelligence I would want heads to roll. The Intel community cannot be in the business of cherry picking the intelligence it wants to present to Congress and the people.

    Yet that's exactly what it's done the last two months.
     
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    The right wing Boogaloo Bois have killed at least five police officers of some capacity, just in the Bay area of California, in the past 3 plus years.
     
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    Certain elements within the intelligence community did the same thing with Curveball and Colin Powell. I think there are good men working there, but they become whistleblowers it seems, and are few and far between.
     
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    "Decentralize" as in get them the F out of D.C., but sure, abolishing them outright would be far better, just not happening any time soon. There is no Constitutional basis for ~15 or more ARMED federal law enforcement bureaucracies, none whatsoever, and fingers crossed this is the kind of excess a more rational Court may address in the coming years.
     
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    Evidence?
     
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    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like individual murder cases if we use Wrays terms of an "idea"!
     
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    The problem with that is if biden wins you trumpers will never accept it.
     
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    We don't need lectures from liberals, leftists and democrats about peaceful transition of power after Russian collusion hoax, Mueller, Ukraine impeachment and 27/7/365 negative press, Trump is a white supremacist lies, and now, changing the VOTING LAWS/RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION!
     
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    Yeah I’m going to defer to the experts instead of some nobody.
     
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    Like I said. The problem with that is if biden wins you trumpers will never accept it.
     
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    You should watch the film "the Comey Rule".
     
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    WHY SHOULD WE? YOU HAVEN'T ACCEPTED THE RESULTS OF THE 2016 ELECTION!
     

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