This subject, to many, will probably be unimportant, but it is a classic example of the incompetence of the people governing us peasants... You see, some bright spark up here in the land that brains forgot has decided peasant cyclists need more room, and therefore more protection from us peasant motorists... This is how it works now: If you are a peasant motorist, you have to give peasant cyclists one metres room in a 60k zone when you pass them, and 1.5metres in over 60k zones... Thats ok I can hear you saying..... But wait there's more..... You can travel on the wrong side of the road if you have to, and if necessary, cross unbroken centre lines to do so... Hang on...aren't the unbroken centre lines there for the safety of the peasant motorists?? But if you, in a split second decide that its safe to cross the unbroken centre lines and cross onto the wrong side of the road its ok...(in any driving conditions, I might add...) What happens if theres a headon with another peasant motorist... Whos going to get booked if I do that....ME....!!!! This is on trial in the state of no brains for two years... Incompetent politicians............. http://www.qld.gov.au/transport/new...rDJ12rLIACoRZDXFGFbWAIo7jEhEQ_n1eshoo6vfD_BwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WmhMKWt8DI
I read, a while back, where someone here in Texas accidently spilled a few thousand carpet tacks on the roadway. It didn't cause any problems with the vehicles other than the cyclists. There are mean people everywhere.
Mate, you better stay in the past. The real problem is, that those who migrated to the US or Australia (I am not talking about late settlers, but the real true blue ones) just stopped in their tracks to further develop themselves. Did you know, that (according to the trials done in the City of Copenhagen) out of every single Euro 25 cents are saved for every kilometer a cyclist rides as compared to a car? Why not give cyclist the space they need, and help to further minimize our carbon footprint on this planet? And if it means to slow down, why not slow down? What's wrong with you guys? Regards
If anyone wants to look like a self centred imbecile, they can`t do much better than riding a pushbike on the road, particularly the highway.
To a road train driver, a pushbike on the highway, is equivalent to an idiot sitting in a chair on the road. Doesn't strain the brain too much to comprehend the danger they impose on other road users. I didn`t mention the danger that pushbike riders impose on themselves, because Charles Darwin covers that in his theory of natural selection.
those no passing zones are meant to stop you from smashing head first into on coming traffic you can't see. moving over for cyclists is to stop you from from smashing into them. do you see the common thread there? don't smash into other people and you'll do just fine.
Moving over for cyclists encourages the motorist to cross unbroken lines...that is pointed out in the link.. They are suggesting that the motorist can drive on the wrong side of the road...!!!
i get that you're not seeing the big picture. (do i get get credit for not saying "i'm getting plenty from your mom/sister/daughter"?)
I see the big picture..the big picture is poorly drafted legislation by incompetent politicians which will lead to road deaths caused by head on collisions...
Common sense is needed all round. I ride my pushy for exercise and to actually get a good workout you have to get on the highway. Where I am there are some roads that just aren't safe for cyclists, therefore risky for cyclists to travel on, and therefore most cyclists just simply don't travel that route. I can't run due to a bit of knee damage from me old footy days and cycling is the next best thing. I admit that some cyclists are idiots and push the boundaries in terms of where they ride on the road and are either unaware or smart arses by taking the risk of slowing up traffic needlessly. On most roads the white line is quite easy to ride along for a strong cyclist, therefore people who aren't strong cyclist need to stick to cycle ways.
This thread is not an attack on cyclists..it is to point out the poor manner in which the legislation has been drafted. If motorists are told its alright to cross onto the incorrect side of the road, on the surface that may be fine if there is a mile of clear road ahead...but if they are encouraged to cross unbroken separation lines, there will be head on collisions, and there will be deaths, and politicians will throw their hands up in the air and say "we tried'..."but we're still incompetent"....
was the redundancy intentional? but srsly. nearly all, if not the entirety of the US requires motorists to move over or slow down for stopped emergency vehicles for decades. i know of no occasion where this has resulted in a head on collision.
A large part of Australian roads comprises of one lane each way...not all roads are multi laned, and not all roads have a lane specifically designed for cyclists only...if a cyclist has a motorist pass giving a metres clearance, this will cause the motorist to travel on the incorrect side of the road...if the speed limit at that point is over 60kph then the motorist must give 1.5 metres clear...thats over four feet...thats a lot of space on narrow roads...on main roads which have say two lanes each way, this is a recipe for disaster if motorists are being encouraged to cross unbroken separation lines...
phfffft. welcome to the same roads the rest of the world has. i live on a busy 2 lane primary road that also serves as the service road for the interstate running 200 yards from my back door. despite the 45mph speed limit, the houses as close as 10 feet from the road, and the curve by the lake and the deer that jump out of the woods, i don't recall there ever being a head on crash...even with the odd cyclist that wanders by. get more practice driving and you'll get better at it.
Well I guess that settles it...theres never been a head on crash in America, even with the odd cyclist riding by... We have head ons regularly in Australia...I guess we are all lousy drivers....
Man, you slow down for Roos, why argue to slow done for cyclists? If any obstacle is in your way, it is your duty to slow down or drive around, common sense. Regards
The problem with this legislation is that they still haven't done anything for the guys that ride roos to work every day...its always the bloody cyclists.....
Can see whatchamean. My problem with pushbikers ( "adult" ) on roads is the other road user`s lives that they put in danger. The sickest aspect of pushbikes on roads, is children. There is no justification to allow a child with no road sense, who hasn`t even reached the stage of development in their life to be able to comprehend the risks of the road, to expose themselves to the lottery of riding a pushbike on a road.