"I helped create the GOP tax myth. Trump is wrong. Tax cuts don't equal growth."

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  1. Kode

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    Your reasoning is twisted and biased. "Do you understand?"

    Your condescending way was one of the reasons I had you on "ignore". I see you haven't corrected that defect.
     
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    can you say why? Notice it will not even occur to a liberal to have a reason, just a feeling is good enough. This is the nature of liberalism.
     
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    Excuse me, I show great respect for conservative libertarians, but not for liberals who slowly starved 120 million human souls to death in 132 separate efforts. Why not tell us how many more efforts the liberal wants to make and how more more millions dead before you stop?
     
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    Ok so you don't understand. You said you are a "free-riding leech" because you are not among the wealthy who pay 42% of government revenue. I wouldn't call you that, but your reasoning that led you to that conclusion is "twisted and biased" because the rest of us, including you, are not "free-riding leeches". Secondly, you say the tax law "punishes the very people who best know how to cause growth". But the wealthy don't give a damn about "causing growth". They are interested on their own profit, wealth, income, and on keeping it that way. Obviously what it does to the rest of us and to "growth" is of no real interest to them.

    But you didn't say anything about this, so I can only assume you know nothing about it, yet your posts reflect a "reasoning that is twisted and baised". Do you understand?
     
  5. Kode

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    Like I said, condescension and contempt and it's based on a woeful lack of knowledge of that which you speak.
     
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    <yawn> I see. So, you posting an irrelevant quote somehow means I'm the one who is clueless....?

    Somehow, I kinda figured it'd be something like that...
     
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    Don't forget to call me evil!
     
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    Keep trying to rationalize and justify evil, even if only by trying to change the subject, and I will.
     
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    I do wear black a lot. And I didn't participate in the latest hunt sabotage! Think you must have a point
     
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    trust me, when we don't have contempt for communism after it slowly starved 120 million to death we will be doomed for sure. should not be hard to figure out-right?
     
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    How could communism starve anyone when communism never existed? LOL!!! Trust you? OBVIOUSLY we shouldn't.
     
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    well, you could say pure capitalism never existed too and never made billions rich but we all know about how communism at different levels of purity slowly starved 120 million to death and how capitalism at different levels of purity made billions of people rich.
     
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    How could capitalism make anyone rich when capitalism never existed??
     
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    Get off it! We aren't demanding "pure". Capitalism is characterized by private ownership of businesses for private profit. That makes it different from ancient slave societies, feudalism, and socialism. No serious, informed advocate of communism ever suggested that communism (classless, stateless society) has ever existed or could be imposed. So pure or not, there has never been a national effort to establish communist classless, stateless society. Your gripe about 120 million being starved is a complaint about failed, ineffective methods employed in an effort to establish SOCIALISM. It was THE METHOD that created problems and ultimately failed. But out of ignorance of the subject, you try to label the effort as the goal itself. And after many, many posts in which you try so very hard to conflate them, and after numerous corrections on it, it's time to give it up. Or are you completely unable to learn?
     
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    We have private ownership of the means of production. Many countries do. You have been corrected on this many times and it's time to give up the lies and spin.
     
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    if you have evidence that i denied we have private ownership I will pay you $10,000. Bet ??
     
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    same with capitalism. SO??????????
     
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    yes but different methods failed in 132 countries slowly starving 120 million to death. I suggest a limit of 80 million more slowly starved to death with 26 new and different different methods and then you give up and become Republican capitalist. Deal?
     
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    so what is the goal?
    why did 120 million die trying to reach the libcommie goal
    why did 800 billion just get rich trying to reach capitalism?
     
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    I should have been more specific and said to you "We have private ownership of the means of production. Many countries do. You have been corrected on this idea that capitalism has never existed many times and it's time to give up the lies and spin.
     
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    NOT.
    TRUE.

    We DO, IN FACT, have private ownership of businesses for private profit as an economic form. We HAVE NEVER SEEN worker ownership and control of production as an economic form.
     
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    A NATIONAL ECONOMY BASED ON WORKER OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL OF BUSINESS, as I have said to you about 75 times before. Did you get it this time?
     
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    if that was a worthy goal companies would have done it 100 years ago. seems absurd liberal scam like the scam about govt owning all the land to perfect society or the communist scam
     
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    So you say if capitalist, privately-owned companies thought worker ownership and control of business was a worthy goal, they "would have done it 100 years ago."

    I believe you're right.

    See, I know you didn't intend to fall into this trap, and it shows that you're only interested in "gotchya" and not reasoned discussion. This is why I had you on "ignore" for so long.
     
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    yes they would have been forced to do it to be competitive or workers would have done it themselves. Problem is it doesn't work despite many efforts so nobody supports it
     

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