I'm sure this is a waste of time since you've never bothered to back up any of your other ridiculous claims, but do you have any sources or evidence to back that up? Please name an honest one that "they" have gotten rid of. And who is "they"?
So you believe that Israel has attacked the US as many times as that, and there haven't been any reprisals?
The white nationalists who introduced so much of the BS into the meme concerning 9/11 are not going to give up that easily. They seem to think that, if they repeat the lie loudly and often enough, it will bring about the RaHoWa.
Allow me to refer you to this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/...r-investigations-9-11-a-3.html#post1061312561 You're welcome.
I think the divide is lop-sidded, yes, and by divide, I mean the US politicians that actually care about the people of Israel, and those politicians that receive perks from championing pro-Israel interest legislation. Our politicians are not immune from this behavior. Ron Paul is still around.
"Little practical significance"....LOL....What has been clearly demonstrated since the false flag attacks carried out on 911 is that al Queda is just another wing of the CIA/Mossad/MI6 scum that is responsible for 99% of all world terrorism...Half of the alleged terrorist bombers accused of flying commercial airliners into US targets have been linked to US military bases....Terrorism is simply another tool used by the world powerbrokers to create fear and panic in the general public while they steadily go about their mission of achieving total spectrum world domination...These so called "intel agencies" such as CIA/Mossad/ MI6 are nothing more than private security employed by the world banking cabal....The ones who create wars and terrorism are those who profit from it....That has been the case for centuries....This latest barrage of anti-Arabic propaganda created over the last three decades is an obvious ploy to give the terrorist scum who have always been in charge of Israel cover in their quest for domination of the middle east and its oil reserves. Cheers
The only thing that has been clearly demonstrated is the completely paranoid delusions of the truthers around here. If it is so "clearly demonstrated", please present one hard piece of evidence that backs up that this is just a CIA/Mossad/MI6 false flag. What? You can't? BIG SURPRISE! I thought you said it was a CIA/Mossad/MI6 operation. Now it is military? Can't you even keep your own BS theories straight? The rest of your post is just more of the same paranoid delusional ranting. Come back when your anti-semitic masters release some of that evidence they claim to have. Jeers!
We already know that you have bought the whole "Osama and the 19 Dwarfs" theory lock stock and barrell champee....Some of us just aren't as gullible as you...Carry on sport...But for those who think it IS important to understand who was behind these murderous attacks, read this: Cheers http://911review.org/Wget/winterpatriot/jerome-hauer.html EXCERPTS: Jerome Hauer's connections with terror and counter-terror started with and concentrated on biological warfare, but they don't stop there. On September 11, 2001, in addition to his job with the NIH, Jerome Hauer was also Managing Director of Kroll Associates, a well-established security firm serving clients in the military and the US government. In the 1980s, Kroll was known as the "CIA of Wall Street" because of the sorts of the people it hired, and the sorts of tasks they were assigned. Strangely, perhaps, on 9/11, Kroll was in charge of security for the entire World Trade Center complex. The head of security at the WTC on September 11, 2001, was former FBI counter-terror specialist John P. O'Neill. O'Neill, considered the world's leading expert on Osama bin Laden, had resigned his post as Deputy Director of the FBI during the summer, very unhappy with the Bush administration's head-in-sand "approach" to terror, after investigations into Osama bin Laden and al-Q'aeda had been blocked. If, as many people believe, 9/11 was a false-flag operation designed to implicate Osama bin Laden, then a legend, or a cover story, involving bin Laden would have to be fabricated, disseminated very quickly, and swallowed whole -- not just by the American people but by the people of the world. And John O'Neill was a most -- if not the most -- formidable obstacle in the way of such a cover story. He was not only the world's leading expert on bin Laden, but he was also regarded as a "loose cannon", because of his record of working outside normal channels when normal channels were "blocked". He knew FBI investigations into bin Laden and al-Q'aeda had been shut down in the summer of 2001 and it is extremely unlikely that he would have remained quiet about it. He also knew whether or not Osama bin Laden was capable of inflicting the amount of damage the US suffered on 9/11. In other words, if the conspirators were hoping to spread a Big Lie about Osama bin Laden, they would have had a short list of things they absolutely had to do. Surely, one of the items on that list would be to silence John O'Neill. And what better way than to entomb him at the scene of the crime? So many questions!
So many lies.....no investigations into bin laden/al qaida had been 'shut down' in the summer of 2001
That's not what the record states... http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/12/30/18667849.php EXCERPT: If you’ve heard of David Philip Schippers at all, chances are you remember him going head to head with former president Bill Clinton. Schippers, a Republican, was the special prosecutor in the Clinton impeachment case in the late 1990s. He was also the former Chief Investigative Counsel for the U.S. House Judiciary Committee. Not exactly an anti-establishment figure. But when it comes to 9/11, Schippers has some things to say that shake the foundations of the official story. Just two days after 9/11, Schippers went public with the explosive statement that he had been told by FBI agents months before 9/11 that there would be a massive terrorist attack targeting the financial arteries of lower Manhattan. The revelation came in an interview he did on WRRK in Pittsburgh. These agents, who were reportedly from Illinois and Minnesota, confided in Schippers that they knew the location and date of the “impending attacks.” They even knew the names of the hijackers and the sources of their funding! Schippers said he attempted to contact then U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft and other federal officials six weeks before 9/11 to report what he’d been told. Ashcroft never returned his calls. He also failed to interest at least one Congressman into investigating the intelligence warning. Instead of Ashcroft, Schippers received a call from a justice department official who told him, “We don’t start our investigations from the top.” The official said he’d get back to Schippers, but the call never came. Keep in mind how firmly placed in the Washington establishment Schippers was – and what a credible figure he would have been. And yet he couldn’t get a call back from the Attorney General on a matter of such consequence. But the story’s even worse than that. FBI agents who brought important the information to their superiors were told to end their inquiries or face possible arrest.
So many lies.....no investigations into bin laden/al qaida had been 'shut down' in the summer of 2001 That's not what the record states... the record is lying then......tha 8/6/2001 PDB clearly states over 70 full field investigations were ongoing into the activities of bin laden/al qaida... You're attempting to confuse interdepartmental rivalry with refusal to investigate Typical truther tactic
Just what I thought. Yet another truther that can only whine about everyone else being so "stupid and gullible", yet has not one shred of evidence to back up his claims. So let's see who is the gullible ones. We have all the evidence that backs up our claims. Your "side" has a bunch of lies and opinions and not one shred of evidence. So how do you come up with your claim that the people that believe all the evidence are somehow more gullible than the people blindly swallowing whatever their (*)(*)(*)(*)**** head truthers tell them is true without evidence to back any of it up? BTW, want to know just how seriously (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up your own views are? You claim it was absolutely necessary to eliminate O'Neill. MOST people survived the impact and collapse of the towers. Wouldn't you want something a little more sure of killing someone you knew had to die than hoping he would be killed in the collapse? Of course you would. You've given us yet another example of truther ignorance that makes no sense at all once you think about it. It is the truther paradox: the bad guys have to be incredibly smart, incredibly lucky, incredibly thorough, incredibly stupid and incredibly inept all at the same time. Why do you claim there are so many questions? You don't ask questions. You make assertions and then hide behind the pretense of asking questions. Unfortunately for truthers, this tactic works about as good as using lead balloons to try and lift you off the ground.
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/02/meet-jerome-hauer-911-suspect-awaiting.html EXCERPT: Which employer -- if any -- was Jerome Hauer representing on the morning of September 11, 2001, when he slipped the seeds of the official conspiracy theory to Dan Rather and his viewers on CBS? A few weeks ago I blogged about a video which was hosted at Google at the time but which has now been taken down. Fortunately I was able to obtain transcripts from the video while it was available. One segment of the video [starting at 2:30] documents the following exchange, from the morning of September 11, 2001: Dan Rather: Based on what you know, and I recognize we’re dealing with so few facts, is it possible that just a plane crash could have collapsed these buildings, or would it have required the, sort of, prior positioning of other explosives in the, uh, in the buildings? I mean, what do you think? Jerome Hauer: No, I, uh, my sense is just the velocity of the plane and the fact that you have a plane filled with fuel hitting that building, uh, that burned, uh, the velocity of that plane, uh, certainly, uh, uh, had an impact on the structure itself, and then the fact that it burned and you had that intense heat, uh, probably weakened the structure as well, uh, and I think it, uh, was, uh, simply the, uh, the planes hitting the buildings, and, and causing the collapse. Jerome Hauer is certainly a remarkable guest, isn't he? On the very morning of the event, he had the whole thing figured out. The collapse was simply due to the planes hitting the buildings, just the velocity of the plane and of course the fact that it was filled with fuel, and the fact that it burned and of course you had that intense heat which must have weakened the structure ... It's incredible, of course. It's also half of the official story! But let's get back to the attack itself. Who did it? Who could have done it? If you were watching CBS that morning, you would have heard this: Dan Rather: What perspective can you give us? I mean, there have been these repeated reports that, well, yes, Osama Bin Laden, but some think he’s been over-emphasized as, as responsible for these kinds of events. I know many intelligence, uh, people at very high levels who say, listen, you can’t have these kinds of attacks without having some state, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, somebody involved. Put that into perspective for us. Jerome Hauer: Yeah, well I’m not sure I agree that, umm, this is necessarily state-sponsored. Umm, it, as I mentioned earlier, certainly has, umm, the, uh, fingerprints of somebody like Bin Laden. And that, of course, is the other half of the official story. How did Dan Rather happen to have a guest with him on the morning of 9/11 who knew the entire official story before it became public knowledge? Jerome Hauer was introduced to CBS's viewers as a former director of NYC's OEM. Strangely, perhaps, CBS News audiences were not told he was also a managing director of the security company responsible for the twin towers. And of course no one was told to start taking Cipro -- except the White House. Planting The Seeds The twin disintegrations of the twin towers certainly looked like explosives-driven demolitions to many reporters who covered them live -- but Jerome Hauer assured Dan Rather and his viewers that it was just caused by the intense heat that weakened the structure! The attack of 9/11 was of such scope and ferocity that it was virtually unimaginable -- except to the people who planned it -- just a day before it happened. But when it did happen, Jerome Hauer was able to contradict the intelligence experts and claim it bore the fingerprints of somebody like Bin Laden! Jerome Hauer knew the entire official story before it became public knowledge. Jerome Hauer helped the official story become public knowledge! Watering The Seeds In November of 2001, Jerome Hauer participated in the Council on Foreign Relations' "Independent Task Force on America's Response to Terrorism", along with Henry A. Kissinger and others; their task included the following items: Release a White Paper explaining our goals and rationale for the war in Afghanistan, and outlining the evidence that the al-Qa'eda network was responsible for the 9/11 attacks Disseminate stories of particular victims to convey the range of people killed in the 9/11 attacks -- stress range of religions, races, income levels, etc. Counteract [the] myth that Mossad was behind the attacks by showing Jews killed, etc. Routinely monitor the regional press in real time to enable prompt responses Routinely Monitor This!! You have a plane filled with fuel hitting that building, the velocity of that plane certainly had an impact on the structure itself, and then the fact that it burned and you had that intense heat, probably weakened the structure as well, and I think it was simply the planes hitting the buildings and causing the collapse. ... I’m not sure I agree that this is necessarily state-sponsored. It certainly has the fingerprints of somebody like Bin Laden. Yeah, sure it does! Really, Jerome -- we believe you! No, we don't! Book 'em, Danno! ~~~
For the life of me I still can't understand why truthers wasnt to minimize what the hijackers were by calling them '19 dwarves' when in reality they were cold blooded killers who murdered passengers and crew tomaintain control of the hijacked flights.....
So where is your evidence? So far all you've done is shown opinion and outright lies you've been called on, but ran away from. Maybe it is time to step away from the whacked out blogs and look at the real evidence for a change. Or are you afraid of the real evidence and the implications thereof?
We simply don't believe the ridiculous BS story that was concocted to make way for the trillions of dollars in filthy war profits made by the true perps of 911....We are well aware of the underlying causes of war and terrorism and who is really behind it.... Cheers http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/my-thoughts-on-911-and-false-flag-terrorism.html Who Pulls the Strings? What is the Exchange Stablization Fund and what are examples of their sinister, covert activities? http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/who-...n-fund-and-who-controls-the-money-supply.html Comment: We, the Western citizenry, are left with the trillion dollar war expenditures. 100% of our income taxes will go to paying the compiling interest rates of not only multi-trillion dollar warfare costs, but also multi-trillion dollar bank bailouts due to fraudulent banking activity. Where have these wars benefited the general population, let alone the massacred millions of Middle Eastern citizens? This is why exposing banking fraud and unjustified warfare is so important today. Those who pull the strings of Western governments are engaging in destructive and life-damaging activities for their personal profit. They are neither fit to rule, nor justified to take us to war. Ted Gunderson Former FBI Chief - Most Terror Attacks Are Committed By Our CIA And FBI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ2VpfUqRoo&feature=player_embedded#at=306 I'll admit this short clip is only one viewpoint in the whole affair, however, hundreds of whistle-blowers share the same viewpoint. These are pieces to consider....that is all: Some shocking discoveries: FBI agents say "They didn't kill enough people" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHm4t-rcPa8&feature=related Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading on 9/11 Flights, Lead Directly into the CIA's Highest Ranks Investigation by Michael C. Ruppert - former Los Angeles Police Department narcotics investigator who discovered CIA trafficking in drugs in 1977. After attempting to expose this, he was forced out of LAPD in 1978 while earning the highest rating reports possible and having no pending disciplinary actions. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/illegaltades.html Quote: "One wonders how much (*)(*)(*)(*)ing evidence is necessary to respond to what is now irrefutable proof that CIA knew about the attacks and did not stop them. Whatever our government is doing, whatever the CIA is doing, it is clearly NOT in the interests of the American people, especially those who died on September 11." Quote: " Her answered floored me. She said, "It probably would have been easy for us to find out who was behind the trades, but the government came in and told the CBOE (Chicago Board Options Exchange) president to stop the investigation." "I said to her again, a third time, making sure I heard right, "The government didn't want you to investigate?" She looked at me said "Yes, that's right." Then she looked at me a little longer, she knew I had interest in this topic, she looked a little nervous and then blurted out to me, "We erased the data. Our data on the trades is gone." John Perkins, author of "Confessions of an Economic Hit-Man" Here is a two minute explanation of how the World Bank/IMF and ''international corporateers" use covert operations to exploit weaker nations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Fzm1hEiDQ or here: http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=83B1AF93091799E7CEB88C5C459A530B Congressman Ron Paul states that there was no justification for American military intervention in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq or Libya. He states that the hijackers of 9/11 were a group of people not a group of nations. America needed to go after those responsible, not attack entire, non-affiliated, Middle Eastern nations who in no way threatened or provoked war. He implied that 9/11 was used as an excuse to war on the axis-of-oil-bearing nations. Go to the 3:34 mark in the following video interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RLonnC_ZWQ0#! What was the rush to transport the Bin Laden family out of the USA ? Why were these Saudis flown out of the country without being interrogated and questioned as to Bin Laden's whereabouts? http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/f...flights-out-of-the-country-after-september-11 The question, which has never been answered, is what was the rush in getting these individuals out of the country? As Cloonan says, "If I had to inconvenience a member of the bin Laden family with a subpoena or a Grand Jury, do you think I'd lose any sleep over it? Not for a minute Mike... [Y]ou got a lawyer? Fine. Counselor? Fine. Mr. Bin Laden, this is why I'm asking you, it's not because I think that you're anything. I just want to ask you the questions that I would anybody." Demolition Experts and Scientists Discuss 9/11 Events http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/demo...ntists-discuss-911-controlled-demolition.html Donald Rumsfeld exposed: 'The origin of the 'Stand-Down' orders' http://911review.com/means/standdown.html Both hijacking by CIA assets, and a controlled demolition were used in the 9/11 WTC operation: CIA Asset Susan Lindauer - 'Plausable Deniability' I acknowledge that Lindauer was 'muzzled' by the US Administration, after the implementation of the Patriot Act. One has to consider her story in context. For example, would the US Administration want a public figure like Lindauer to expose their crimes so early on in their drive for war on Iraq? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJTwbHdH6k&feature=related Regarding the auctioning off of Iraqi oil fields: Quote from The New York Times June 16, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/business/energy-environment/17oil.html?pagewanted=all "...one of the 11 fields that the Iraqis auctioned off went to an American oil company — Exxon Mobil" "Lukoil and many of the other international oil companies that won fields in the auction are now subcontracting mostly with the four largely American oil services companies that are global leaders in their field: Halliburton, Baker Hughes, Weatherford International and Schlumberger. Those four have won the largest portion of the subcontracts to drill for oil, build wells and refurbish old equipment." "While Baker and its American peers are poised to make significant profits from such work in Iraq, wafer-thin margins seem to await Lukoil and the other international oil producers — which include BP of Britain, CNPC of China, ENI of Italy and the Anglo-Dutch company Shell." NORAD Terror Drills were going on day of 9/11 http://911review.org/inn.globalfreepress/lost_terror_drills_11a.html
/ they definetely had a hand in Oklahoma city bombing and USS Liberty. thats two for SURE I know about.Oklahoma was ther pretence to 9/11.Just like with 9/11, we lost some of our civil libertys back then. Oklahoma city we REALLY lost them all and was excatly what they needed for their new world order plan of invading all these different countrys they have.Look for that to continue if ron paul does not get elected him being the only candidate that believes in the constitution of the government serving us instead of us serving them like we do now.
We simply don't believe the ridiculous BS story that was concocted to make way for the trillions of dollars in filthy war profits made by the true perps of 911....We are well aware of the underlying causes of war and terrorism and who is really behind it.... Frankly I could give a rat's ass what you orv your merry band of truthers believe...the offical version HAS been proven....as of yet,yours has been found ....lacking.
Have you seen that video of Obama inviting the prime minister of Israel to the white house? That video cracks me up.You would think that Obama was the visitor in Israel at their home instead cause it shows The Prime Minister with his feel uo on Obamas desk like he owns the place and Obama the loyal slave to him is grasping at the armchair of the chair with his hand over his mouth trying to hide the grimace and anger on his face that thei man is the one who is ruling the roost as you see Obama clutching the chair in anger making it clear he is the boss and Obama is the servant.Have you seen that video? its hilarious. then it goes on to show Obama making a speech talking about how the united states ia huge supporter of Israel and after the speech all of congress stands up and gives him a loud standing ovation.You'll never hear Obama give a speech saying all the wonderful stuff he said about Israel about some other country like New Zealand and congress giving him a standing ovation for that kind of speech.lol.
So you believe a bunch of made up bull(*)(*)(*)(*) with no evidence to back it up instead?!? Wow. That is SO much better than looking at the evidence, using your brain (a novel concept for truthers) and looking at what makes sense. BTW, show us the trillions of dollars in war profits. Go ahead. I love how truthers pretend nothing costs anything so everything is profit. How ignorant can a position possibly get? I honestly don't know, but truthers are constantly proving they have not yet hit the bottom of the ignorance barrel. Come on Jack. Can't you show us just ONE piece of real evidence? Or are you going to continue on with your cut and paste ignorancefest?
The official version has not been proven....You just believe whatever they say on TV...Stick to Gilligans Island reruns champ, they are a lot closer to reality than the crap you swallow...And the BS just keeps on comming...When are you hapless buffoons ever going to crawl out of your holes and see the daylight? Cheers http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/war-for-control-of-oil-iraq-libya-now-syria-next-iran.html Does this about sum it all up? 1) Western news agencies 'demonize' the targeted ME leader 2) Years of preparation by Central Intelligence has funded, armed and trained the rebel leaders and their paid black ops forces. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccq3lQeV6GA Another example: Al CIAda http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/fabricating-the-myth-of-osama-bin-laden-and-al-qaeda.html 3) NATO directs their rebel leaders to begin armed civil protests, shootings, and assassinations 4) Unwary ME citizens are divided....and terrorized 5) The Middle Eastern leader sends in the troops to quell the revolt, aware that the revolutionaries are under the directive of Central Intelligence 6) Mainstream media (the propaganda arm of the Western Oligarchy) claim the ME leader is a 'terrible dictator' for wishing to quell the internal domestic revolt. 7) NATO forces send in the 'freedom' bombs, slaughters the ME Government forces and replaces the ME leader with a minion of the Western Oiligarchy. The banks and oil fields are privatized and placed under the dominion of NATO-aligned corporateers and Banksters. What is left is: the infrastructure of the former, modern Middle Eastern nation has been demolished...and the hired guns (rebel forces, mercenaries and other Central Intelligence backed terror groups) are left to assassinate any and all Iraqi, Libyan, (now Syrian, and next Iranian) opposition to the whole disgusting affair.
