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  1. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    If trump is correct in saying Mueller gave him a clear slate in collusion and obstruction of justice why is the DOJ so worried about what Mueller is going to say tomorrow? Even though Mueller is a private citizen the DOJ is attempting to limit what Mueller can and can not discuss. I'm hoping Mueller will tell Barr where to put his demands.
     
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    The DOJ is not worried over Mueller's testimony other than their concern if Mueller would say things that he legally cannot disclose, like grand jury testimony.
     
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    There is no question about where Mueller stands politically.

    IF he were to be asked point blank about using the FISA warrant evidence in the DC Grand Jury, he would have to plea the 5th.

    Barr simply wants Mueller out of the way so he won't contaminate the indictments that will be coming down on the major players in the coup.
     
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    Someone who was guilty of nothing would not put restrictions on what he could or could not say???
     
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    Lolz ... the DOJ hasn't demanded anything. Bob Mueller contacted the DOJ for guidance. The DOJ advised Mueller to use the same parameters his team and the DOJ adhered to during the redaction process. What was sensitive then is sensitive now. The DOJ can't demand Mueller comply with DOJ regs. So the question is how many questions will Bob dodge by citing DOJ regs.
     
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    Are you one of the 5 CNN viewers left? Nadler is an Iranian asset. He hates Trump because Trump nixed his deal to give Iran a nuke. So, now what do you have to say?

    Do you want to discuss why Nadler and the Democrats delayed the testimony to give them time to school Mueller on how he should spin his no collusion, no obstruction report?
     
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    I couldn't find anything to support that. Perhaps you can document your statement.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    As it turns out, Mueller asked for the letter from the DOJ. Mueller apparently doesn't want to answer questions that will expose the entire investigation as one perjury trap after another
     
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    One cannot fall into a perjury trap unless one commits perjury.
     
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    Spot on. Dems are shooting themselves in the foot with this one but will Nadler and Schiff finally shut up?
     
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    He's not testifying as a private citizen.
     
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    Then why is the term "perjury trap" considered prosecutorial misconduct.

    When two people testify, and one lies, the prosecutors decide who to charge.

    Guess what: they don't always charge the liar.

    All they need is conflicting testimony from two people to charge one with perjury.

    And before you go "but muh Mueller team would never do that", all you have to do is look at Weismann's history of misconduct.
     
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    I found a lot supporting your OP ... the DOJ limiting Mueller's testimony ... but everything the MSM portrayed the DOJ as having done, was fabricated. Mueller as a private citizen sent a letter to the DOJ on July 10th requesting guidance. The DOJ replied that Mueller should maintain the parameters that he defined for himself on May 29th when he briefed the press and announced his departure. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ba...imony-must-remain-within-boundaries-of-report It makes sense that what was sensitive enough to be redacted then, is sensitive enough not to be discussed in the public portion of the hearing. Mueller though, as a private citizen doesn't have to take guidance from the DOJ, let alone ask for it in writing. Adam Schiff isn't going to accept "DOJ guidance" as an "excuse" from Mueller. Are you?
     
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    It was Mueller asked Barr for that protection not the other way around.
     
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    Because it is about politics, not crime and punishment. Since people are considered innocent until proven guilty, then Trump can claim innocence. He wasn't charged with any crime. So he is innocent.
     
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    What will he be when he's no longer president and he can be charged with a crime?
     
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    Since he committed no chargeable offense free to live rent free in your head until you get over it.
     
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    But Mueller still ended up perjuring himself...

    And Lesko out him for it....

    One of the most shameful days in the history of the United States.
     
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    He will be a retired business owner.
     
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    Now we know why. Mueller was lipstick on the pig that was the witch hunt by Hillary campaign connected prosecutors. Turns out he is an unimpressive shade of gray lipstick.
     
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    The only question No would be, 'Was the impression Mueller gave of a doddering idiot real or contrived?'.
     
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    No in order to convict someone of perjury the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. There would need to be stronger evidence than one person's word verses someone else's word.
     
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    Not really no all you really need is a convinceable jury.
     

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