"I was wife #2 in the King's Harem"

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A rare inside look into the family life of the Saudi royal family:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-394769/I-wife-No2-Kings-Harem.html

    She was provided with every luxury money could buy, yet trapped in a gilded cage. She desperately wanted to have children, but every time she managed to get pregnant she was forced to have an abortion. Then one day, she was simply discarded and sent away.
     
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    Islam forbids killing children. If she really was forced to abort pregnancy, there's something gone wrong very terribly.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently Islam has more flexibility on this than Christianity. Iran issued a fatwa that abortion is okay as long as it's done before the baby is stirring around in there.

    Even ISIL forced women to have abortions.
     
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    Good grief they're practically progressives!
     
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    I would guess that this could be the reason why she was forced to have abortions.

    King Fahd prefered that the children be aborted.... rather than raised by their mother as Christians like she was.


    She might find great consolation from the book by Ms. Ariela Solsol who during her near death
    experience met with her aborted children in heaven.

    Near death experiencer shown no condemnation for women who choose....

     
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    Correct...... something has gone terribly wrong!

    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land, Hebrew and Arabic.
     
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    @DennisTate

    I'm glad to be an Atheist.

    If you meet 3 Christians, you'll get 4 meanings of how any aspect should be understood in the context of their religion. Same applies to Jews and Muslims.
     
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    or any religion for that matter once you start poking holes in its ideology.
     
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    Quite frankly..... I am glad that you are an Atheist also......
    because I tend to have far better discussions with Agnostics and Atheists than I tend to have
    with deeply religious people.

    One exceptionally well informed Atheist...... told me that my ideas were considered to be
    one legitimate part of Atheistic philosophy.......
    my belief is that Intelligence originally began in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.......
    that Life Form evolved and learned and got better and better at creation.......
    formed angels and Watchers and various species of aliens.... both extra-terrestrial as well as
    extra- dimensional.... and eventually that Intelligence / Intelligences...... formed at least one
    Adam and Eve pair...... but I am wide open to the idea that
    was put forward by psychic Edgar Cayce that there have actually been five major Adam and Eve
    pairs over the last several million years.

    Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?
     
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    Good point....... which was I suppose one of the reasons why Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus made this statement:

    John 16:25 "These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father."

    If... the Jewish and Christian scriptures as they were canonized.......
    were plain and simple and easily understood teaching about the
    Father...... the Ancient of Days who Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stated was actually
    doing all the miracles connected to his ministry in Judaea......
    then.......... there would not be such a desperate need for clear and simple teachings
    that anybody could understand.

    My theory... is that modern NDE accounts......
    is Messiah Yeshua - Jesus speaking plainly of The Father......

    The being of light of NDE fame, G-d or Satan?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats some evil right there.
     
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    You write in the past. My belief is that life is still evolving. Evolution will never stop as long as our universe exists.

    Religious people believe (like you) that life is a constant. Once created and ivariable until the end of time.
     
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    In Iran, it is believed that ensoulment happens at 16 weeks (meaning they believe that is when the soul enters the unborn baby). All abortions after that are forbidden with heavy penalities
    for violaters. Prior to 16 weeks a woman may get an abortion if her life is in danger, or, if she get approval by three specialist physicians, if there is fetal abnormality. I don't know the laws in other
    Muslim countries.
     
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    Change that to: if you meet 3 people, you'll get 4 moral stances on any question. It's not really a religious trait to interpret morality, but a human one. Your pride in Atheism is misplaced in this instance.
     
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