Idiots wrote an article for idiots

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    The entire Skripak affair is a joke. Only the most gullible really believe that bunch of propaganda.
     
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    The U.K. did it to embarrass Russia.
     
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    FFS.....irrespective of the accuracy or providence of the article you have to read what's written....it didn't say they MADE it there....
    ....public bogs aren't chemistry labs.....well, not unless you've had a chicken vindaloo and a dozen pints...

    Perhaps you could have suggested that mixing the stuff in a public bog required wearing space suits or something like that....which on reflection is not so outlandish as there are loads of druids around Sailsbury who tend to wear some pretty daft togs....anyway its a non-story and will probably be flushed down the bog with all the other whackjob theories floating around in the press...like festering turds in a public bog.
     
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    No one knows if the Skripals were even poisoned, and with what and how, but does it matter to McCain, Graham and the other war freaks?
     
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    It is certainly interesting that someone would go to the effort of using a very sophisticated chemical weapon to kill someone (like there are not a gazillion other ways to do the job and make sure it was a done deal) - and fail.

    the clown show continues. This has false flag written all over it.
     
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    It does seem questionable. Surely not getting caught is a strong second priority to eliminating the target.
     
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    Mr Putin and the Russian state are certainly capable of cold-blooded murder of people who get in their way -- liberal politicians, journalists, people who own businesses they want to steal.

    But when they murder these people, there is a logic behind it: you're killing possible rivals, or people who might undermine your power, or people who have something you want.

    The Skrypal thing didn't make sense, from a Russian state perspective.

    The investigative reporter Seymour Hersh thinks it might possibly have been Russian organized crime, and that seems to be the most plausible explanation at the moment. Of course there is lots of overlap between the Russian state and organized crime, but they're not the same thing.
     
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    Even if one did want to use a chemical of some kind .. why on earth would one use Novichok - knowing it would leave a trail of crumbs ?
     
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    The Russians are masters of sophisticated poisoning techniques, and have been for many decades. They murdered Ukrainian nationalists in Germany in the late 1950s and everyone believed it was heart attacks until after the USSR collapsed and the truth came out. It may be, after Communism collapsed and crony-capitalism came in, that their methods of eliminating people they don't like have deteriorated. If so, it's the only argument that supporters of socialism can bring up as an example of something that was superior under communism and has become worse under capitalism.
     
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    Not only that, but it is not conclusively known WHO conducted the 'poisoning', and who created this batch of poison -- IF the 'poisoning' actually did occur. The poison, so far identified as 'Novichok', was developed by the old Soviet Union way back in 1971. It is highly unlikely, however, that the Soviets were the only ones who ever learned how to create it....
     
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    Congress of the United States adopts new sanctions against Russia, the basis for sanctions is a fake news ...
     
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    I would assume that any public toilet facility also has a hand basin for people to wash their hands.Something that someone mixing chemicals might utilize.
     
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    Perfect chemical to pin on the russian state.

    This is like the CIA hacking into another nation's security system, and leaving a calling card.."the CIA did it". ha ha We know they have the ability now thanks to Vault 7 to frame a hack on anyone they desire. Instead of framing themselves. ha ha

    Putin is behaving like Assad. In doing things, like assad's supposed gas attacks, at times when it is against their own interests to do it. I guess like assad, putin is really an idiot, low IQ, while at the same time a brilliant ex KGB operative? ha ha ha

    This whole affair is just another means test for the individual intelligence of citizens. I would imagine someone is playing close attention to how many people bought into this, the official story! And how many did not. I think it is a win for the clueless group. The naive and gullible.
     
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    Do you know that one drop of deadly Novichok is guaranteed to kill a person? Did you know that one of the creators died in terrible torment from a drop of deadly Novichok? You know there's no antidote? And you still believe in the fake?
     
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    did you know one variant comes in a powdered form? The other creators were rather forthright about what is does, how its handled etc. One was even tried for treason but eventually was freed.
     
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    Why in Russia the poison killed a lot of people, including the killer, Kivelidi, and in England 0? Except for the woman who was disconnected from the medical device by doctors. It's illogical.
     
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    no it isn't. Do you know the concentration? You do realize that after those deaths, it was engineered to be safer to handle and even came in a powder.

    What's illogical is leaping to conclusions based on insufficient data. The agent was identified by four independent labs.
     
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    I do not believe in the independence of these laboratories. Everything in this world depends on the dollar.
     
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    yes doubting the credibility of everything is the most appropriate way of dealing with uncomfortable facts.
     
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    Unverified false facts provoke tragedy.
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    If you want to find a criminal, ask yourself: who benefits? Putin? No. He is not an idiot to have sanctions against Russia. This was done by the one who benefits from sanctions against Russia. Establishment of England and the USA.
     
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    Interesting - I have thought the same - meaning that it seems like the boundaries of what people will accept is being tested .. intentionally... and the results of the experiment are not good (from my perspective - wonderful from the perspective of those doing the testing)
     
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    Do you remember you asked me why I called you a russia apologist?
    This is why.
     

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