If Biden Cared as Much About Americans as he Does ukrainians

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  1. Bill Carson

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    The blithering idiot is on TV right now talking about ukrainians like they are more important than Americans.

    America First *******.

    It's long past time to put the lives of Americans first.....instead of lying about ukraine and acting as if the Azov Nazis are NATO members.

    Impeach this SOB. Gutless ass Republicans won't do **** though.
     
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    You really have to wonder what Zelensky has on Biden and other democrats.
     
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    So far Biden is concerned, MANY foreigners are more important to him than American citizens. There's a better chance they will vote for him in November 2024 if the Democrats can give them an absentee ballot.
     
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    We have a commitment to Ukraine.
    Three decades ago, the newly independent country of Ukraine was briefly the third-largest nuclear power in the world.
    Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.
    In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum. https://www.npr.org/.../108.../ukraine-russia-putin-invasion

    Flashback: Senator Obama pushed bill that helped destroy
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    Barack Obama has condemned Vladimir Putin’s attack on Ukraine and called on all Americans to impose sanctions on Russia even if doing so hurts the United States economy. His statements make him sound like a strong ally of Ukraine, ready to do whatever it takes to protect innocents from harm. But there is more to this story than meets the eye. When you examine Obama’s career, you find that he has done everything in his power to encourage the current invasion.
    Just seven months after Obama was sworn in as a U.S. senator in 2005, he traveled to one of the Ukrainian cities currently under Russian occupation with Sen. Dick Lugar and met with then President Viktor Yushchenko. The men discussed the destruction of Soviet-era weapons. Obama and Lugar argued that the existing Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, mandating the destruction of nuclear weapons, should be amended to include artillery, small arms, antiaircraft weapons, and other munitions. Yushchenko agreed with the senators and they secured $48 million in U.S. funding to destroy 400,000 small arms, 15,000 tons of ammunition and 1,000 antiaircraft missiles. Photographs from the trip show Obama touring a warehouse full of the type of weapons required to repel an advancing Russian invasion.
     
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    The White House refused to include weapons in an aid package announced Thursday for embattled Ukraine despite an impassioned plea by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko for more military assistance.
    The Obama administration is providing $46 million in non-lethal security assistance and $7 million for relief organizations providing humanitarian assistance to Ukrainians affected by the conflict between government forces and Russian-backed separatists in the eastern region.
    The White House announcement came shortly after Poroshenko stood before a joint session of Congress and pleaded for more political support and military equipment beyond the non-lethal aid the United States has pledged.
    Poroshenko said blankets and night-vision goggles from the USA are important, "but one cannot win a war with blankets!"
     
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    I do believe the reason Russia attacked Crimea and the whole country of Ukraine is because Obama refused to arm Ukraine. I think Russia had to believe that Biden wouldn't either and they could march right in there and take over the whole country. I give Biden credit that he didn't do the same thing Obama did.
     
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    I don't want to hear a damn thing about any memorandum. The truth is the US violated that memorandum, multiple times. "the ukraine" was also supposed to be a neutral state as part of their independence. The US wasn't supposed to arm nor train ukraine's nazis either, yet we did (after we illegally Coup'd the last democratically elected President of "the ukraine").

    And those precious nukes ukie had, they were long range nukes aimed at us. They were useless for defending against Russia. Furthermore, the launch controls were in Moscow.
     
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    republicans want to destroy Ukraine to send a msg to other countries to never leak their quid pro quo's against Trump's rivals again - Trumpettes upset Trump got caught wth his hand inside the cookie jar
     
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    to many on the right, it's Putin first
     
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    Follow the money.
     
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    So let's see if we're keeping score correctly.

    The do nothing GOP wanted a border bill meeting their demands. They got it and they refuse to vote on it.

    The GOP wanted a stand alone bill for Ukraine and Israel funding. They got it and refuse to vote on it.

    Explain to me again, other than bending the knee to traitor Trump, what has the GOP actually done?
     
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    And/or, even simpler, this works in Putin's favor and his man, Agent Orange, obliges. Probably both.
     
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    Hey, Johnson said yesterday that the Ukie deal did not have anything for the home border, I ****in' kid you not!!! He either regressed or is in the three card Monty school of Agent Orange.
     
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    Bribing the Biden Crime Family was the best money Ukraine ever spent.
     
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    wonder how many arms we sent them will be used against US military or the IDF?
     
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    It's a corrupt lawless hell hole. How will we tell if the weapons came from those we supplied Ukraine, or those we left behind when Bribed Joe bugged out of Afghanistan?
     
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    well if they recover the small arms, I would assume the serial numbers can be traced. If the only think found are the bullets or shrapnel-good point
     
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    Impeaching Biden makes the awful Kamala Harris president.
     
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    The conflict in Ukraine was started by Victoria Nuland et al back in late 2013 and early 2014.

    That is many years before the leak

    Ukraine war started in 2014.png
     
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    Or MTG has his cahunas in hot tongs.

    That boy does what he's told, lol.
     
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    It's a good thing he cares more about the Ukies, he's got 500,000 of them killed and almost as
    many maimed, and had left the US public largely alone, apart from damaging the dollar.
     
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    It's like having a beheaded chicken for a president.
     
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    Nope.
     

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