If Biden doesnt win the nomination....

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Was the impeachment one big lie by the democrats?

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  1. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Biden being a place holder but I think the same is true for the whole field. I still think Joe was chosen to hold the place for Michelle Obama and the others were not told. I mean, the Democrats have to at least make it appear that they're trying to run someone, anyone for the time being. If it is obvious to us that the Dem field lacks a winner it sure as hell is obvious to them. I believe Obama was always the choice but they needed to knock Trump down significantly for her to have a chance. As the world now knows Trump has out politicianed all of the politicians, has made the most seasoned Democrats look like amateurs. While Obama has being black and female going for her and the darling of popular culture she has zero credentials, not even a bought and paid for senatorial seat. I think the Dems thought her popularity was enough but just to hedge their bets the plan was to wage a war against Trump, well we all know how that turned out. I don't think the Obama brand has lost it's luster but if they trot her out it's going to be a matter of timing because the Get Trump thing hasn't had the desired effect. Such a shock announcement could set the Trump campaign off balance and could come at a time when there's little time to recover. Don't forget the US lost it's mind and swooned over her worthless husband twice. I could be wrong but the Dems have had four years to put together something and all they have to offer is the present clown show? I'm not buying it.
     
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  2. Gatewood

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    I somewhat agree with you. I had thought that they were going to go with Elizabeth Warren but they are waiting way too long to pull her political fat out of the fire. I suppose that it is remotely possible that the DNC is finally just letting the political system play itself out for once. Hahahaha! Listen to me, even considering that the corrupt DNC would play fair.
     
  3. Golem

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    Oh... you think that a wingnut video is the Mueller Report?

    Wrong! Only the Mueller Report is the Mueller Report. And what does the Mueller Report say?

    Well... for example:

    Mueller (p 180): As explained in Section IV above, the Office's investigation uncovered evidence of numerous links (i.e., contacts) between Trump Campaign officials and individuals having or claiming to have ties to the Russian government.

    In fact, the Mueller Report identified 272 contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives. Not counting the redacted portions....
     
  4. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    So what? I checked your facebook friends, and you have some questionable contacts too.

    Lets ask Bob Mueller...
     
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    Given his totalitarian leadership techniques and desire to micromanage the entire known universe I wouldn't put Bloomberg in charge of anything that required human freedom in which to operate at peak efficiency.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think impeachment was strictly a one political party affair. I also believe that most Democrats believed Trump guilty and most Republicans that Trump was innocent while independents didn't know what to believe and split pretty much down the middle with a small plurality against. Trump's impeachment was just like Bill Clinton's, a one party affair in which each party thought they were doing the right thing.

    I don't think Joe Biden had anything to do with it.
     
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    I think Trump feared Biden would win the nomination. That is why he asked the Ukrainian President to announce he was investigating Joe and Hunter Biden.
     
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    Did you know that there is evidence that someone tried to poison Shokin (with mercury, I believe) at the time of his firing?
    This kind of stiff doesn’t happen to corrupt individuals. In fact, you’d expect that kind of poisoning to happen to a good prosecutor.
     
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    He was the most serious contender for the nomination until he started running and talking. He has failed to win the nomination before. It isn't hard to see why.
     
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    The trouble is Biden is the Obama nostalgia candidate and he couldn't draw flies while standing a top a dead steer.
     
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    Biden has zero chance of being nominated. The impeachment discussion about him is only a small part of that. Trump always relished being opposed by Biden, and he salivates profusely over any of the other contenders.
     
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    I don't have a facebook account. And I'm not talking about "questionable" contacts. I'm talking about the Mafia that surrounds Trump.
     
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    Serious wtf. Biden isn't a threat now, but he was then. Wanting to smear him politically is the most likely reason for trump making the "corruption" request specific to the bidens. You do realize that there were many other people on the barisma board of directors. Many of them US citizens. Why was there no explicit request to investigate them?
    You know the answer, this was never about corruption. Never.
     
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    Biden was never a contender, just an excuse to impeach the President.

    Trump did want Burisma investigated.
     
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    You have an active imagination.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    I know, and his previous failures prove he was never a serious contender, merely an excuse to impeach the President.
     
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    No. he. did. not. He wanted the Bidens investigated. You can fool yourself if you like (although my instinct tells me you are merely disingenuous).
     
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    Yes he did, and its because Joe and Hunter are freakn guilty of corruption, and possibly money laundering, and racketeering.

     
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    I know you aren't stupid so cut the bullshit
     
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    Really? So I "imagined" that Trump's campaign manager, his attorney, his security adviser, one of his international advisers, and several of his political consultants have been criminally indicted?

    You have a unique capability to escape reality.
     
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    the republicans also believed trump was guilty but the below are the 3 reasons they did not say as much

    1. fear

    2. Fear

    3. FEAR!
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Are you talking about the democrats treacherous attempts to remove a democratically elected President of the United States?
     
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    seems to me the guy is saying maybe if trump did not employ so many convicted crooks maybe the democratically elected president wold have NOT been trump

    and I am not referring to the run against Hillary

    trump cheated the GOP primaries with the help of his criminals

    he won with name calling and acting like a child and criminal activity

    and the GOP does not care because he is in the whitehouse

    if a different republican was in the whitehouse trump would be in prison for election tampering
     
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    The dems need to move left economically given their move to the right kicked working people to the curb.

    We need the dem party to move back towards what they once were Call it socialist if you want But anytime working people are represented the enablers of the oligarchs holler socialism . You can set your watch by this .
     
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