If Big Tech Can Censor Me, Think What It Can Do to You

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by XXJefferson#51, Feb 24, 2019.

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Is it fair for any internet social or communications site to redo their TOS to censor conservatives?

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  1. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    ....Even worse than the censorship itself is the fact that it takes public outrage just to get Big Tech to treat conservative voices fairly. When social media censorship comes after someone like me, a prominent businessman and the son the president of the United States, it’s a story. The same is not true for the millions of conservative Americans who have no recourse whatsoever when Twitter or Facebook bans their accounts, limits their reach, and otherwise silences their voices because of their political opinions. It is they who are hurt the most by Big Tech’s manipulative partisan agenda.

    Worryingly, there seems to be no limit to that manipulation. The tech giants are now tinkering with their terms of service to mandate that users adhere to liberal orthodoxy in their posts..... https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...or_me_think_what_it_can_do_to_you_139555.html the article starts with specific incidents of how big tech social media was literally censoring its author, the son of the President of the United States . It goes on to talk of those who couldn’t like or follow him because of Instagram. He then talked of how conservative media has exposed the msm but now social media and others are countering that with changes in their TOS to ban conservatives or their sources. He mentioned how they have messed with an RNC spokes person and a GOP congressional candidate. The techies say it was a mistake all the time and yet these mistakes only happen to conservatives.
     
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    It is time for conservatives to wake up and rise up to resist internet censorship and to publicly shame those who continue to do so as the author, Donald Trump Jr. suggests.
     
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    The thing is that, AFAIK, the big social media platforms are still, in the final analysis, net sites. They have huge capacities and a plethora of features but they remain private net sites. Facebook is, basically, Zuckerberg's blog.

    And people have the right to ban politics they really disagree with on their private site. Would you want to be compelled to carry communist propaganda on yours?
     
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    Stop spreading trump jr's lies.
    Social media doesn't censor conservatives. It is starting to censor hate speech. Maybe if you people stopped spouting so much of it, you wouldn't feel so victimized, like poor trump jr. The apple sure didn't fall far from the tree with that tribe. What a bunch of whiny snowflakes.
     
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    Fake news!!!!
     
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    Hate speech? What’s joke. They stupidly use the bigoted biased list provided by the terrorist inspiring hate group SPLC. Some of the msm so called fact checkers also use it. SPLC and others using that characterization of mainstream conservative and Christian organizations are being sued for defamation and for big damages. All businesses that use the SPLC hate targeting of legitimate groups need to cease and desist or face a lawsuit that will financially break their companies and the individuals running it.
     
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    Well, to be fair, trump jr did say it, so it's not fake news. It's just another self-serving lie from the trump tribe.
     
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    Trump Jr. is reporting alternative facts. It's fake news
     
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    Lol...Well, you would say that, wouldn't you?
    I'm sure the nazis felt the same way about the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
    The fact is that the SPLC has been a thorn in the side of bigots, racists and extremists for decades and they are doing God's work.
     
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    Fortunately the new Facebook, USA LIFE has just opened and conservatives won’t be censored there. https://usa.life/
     
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    I'm sure all six of you will enjoy it
     
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    Easy fix to this censorship problem :

    1) All service providers are legally forbidden from discriminating based on personal views. This includes ISP's, registrars, hosting companies, finance companies, etc. This is the basic idea that an ice cream company should sell ice cream to anyone who asks for it. This would not include social networks, as they don't directly sell specific goods or services.

    2) Expose all the globalist companies and boycott them.

    3) Make alternatives, there is a huge market for this. This is of course only possible if 1) is guaranteed by law, otherwise their domain name or server might get shut down, as has been done already, which should be illegal.
     
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    Embracing an ideology that's never worked anywhere ever, socialists have to silence viewpoints they don't share and unleash attacks against those who disagree with them. History is littered with examples of failure of socialism despite the censorship and propaganda that come along with it. The failed Soviet Union excelled at those methods. They just couldn't get socialism to work, even after imposing brutal authoritarian rule.

    A handful of radicals wrote bots to attack Rush Limbaugh's sponsors in an effort to silence him. He found out who they were, published their names and presented them to his sponsors.

    Radical socialists have lowered discourse to ad hominem attacks on sponsors to silence critics. They are working overtime to silence Tucker.

    In the end, we may well have another "Ruler For Life" as Obama fashioned himself, aspiring to be another Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez.
     
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    Wow. There is almost nothing true in that post
     
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    That depends on political ideology.
     
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    No. Truth is truth.

    Wow. You think truth is politics. Wow
     
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    More like almost all of it is true.
     
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    Yeah.....in bizarro world. Lol
     
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    I've heard conservatives whine and complain like little girls about the MSM for a couple decades now ... so my only question would be, why haven't they started their own Media? Too lazy? We know they have the money. Too stupid? It's interesting that most big tech is run by more progressive thinkers. What is it?
     
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    So you have reason to doubt there was a #StopRush conspiracy created and developed by Media Matters for America Executive Vice President Angelo Carusone.
    Your moron admitted to it. He was proud that his mob of slime attacks free speech he disagrees with wherever he finds it ,,,, that while protecting the sanctity of the internet with Net Neutrality.

    Meet The Top Members of The Stop Rush Conspiracy

    This list was developed so that advertisers and others can judge the credibility and motives of the activist bullies anonymously behind Stop Rush. Any other use is not endorsed.


    Name: Matthew Mitchell
    Location: Altamonte Springs, FL
    ID: Captain Murdock/@CaptMurdock


    Name: Nancy Padak
    Location: Kent State University
    ID: npadak@kent.edu, facebook.com/nancy.padak
    Fun Fact: Emails advertisers with harassment from her official Kent State email address. Gives businesses she has no relationship with 1 star ratings if they advertise on Rush. Friend of Cherie Richards


    Name: Jason Rey
    Location: Georgia
    ID: Frantic Quark/@FranticQuark


    Name: Lauren Reynolds
    Location: Los Angeles, CA
    ID: Lauren Reynolds/@chloesty, lonelydays46@gmail.com, facebook.com/lauren.reynolds.946179
    Fun Fact: Gives businesses she has no relationship with 1 star ratings if they advertise on Rush


    Name: Cherie Richards
    Location: Powell, Ohio
    ID: Kitty Fitzgerald/@KittyFitz50 kittyfitzgerald@gmail.com, facebook.com/cherier1
    Fun Fact: Regularly changes online identity to hide anonymously, gives businesses she has no relationship with 1 star ratings if they advertise on Rush


    Name: Sarah Smyea Rivers
    Location: Whittier, CA
    ID: SueBryce/@eurekasue49
    Fun Fact: Changes ID frequently with different numbers to remain anonymous, has sent over 96,000 tweets


    Name: Dennis William Rohner
    Location: Gainesville, FL
    ID: Shawtoo@Shawtoo


    Name: Linda Kotsenburg Swanholm
    Location: Covina, CA
    ID: CMMorgan/@socallks, lswanholm@aol.com
    Fun Fact: Develops, administers, and distributes target lists indiscriminately, gives businesses she has no relationship with 1 star ratings if they advertise on Rush


    Name: Carol Kernahan Wallin
    Location: Anaheim, CA
    ID: Uses @Flushfools and @hrhprincess, facebook.com/carol.kernahan.7, flushfools@gmail.com
    Fun Fact: Writes for DailyKos under both identities, long bullying/harassing pieces about political opponents.

    Do provide the evidence you have refuting what the perps admitted to.
     
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    And people used to have the right to put "No Jews", "No Blacks" signs on their private businesses.... until the society recognized how reprehensible this was and they were condemned as racists and stripped of this particular right.

    I find it extremely ironic when flaming libs like you condone this reprehensible suppression of free speech and the use of Fascist/Stalinist tactic because it's a "private" business and it is "perfectly" legal. This is the exact argument the supremacists and KKK used to justify the "No Blacks" signs.

    Sad.
     
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    Yet conservatives just fought to have the RIGHT to refuse service to gay people.
    Here's a mirror for that glass house of yours.
     
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    1. While I disagree with gay hating owners of the business, your post is actually a perfect demonstration om my point - the libs proudly admit that they are just as despicable and reprehensible as gay haters, fascists and supremacists/KKK.

    2. There was a religious factor at play there which does not exist when it comes to social media, and there are millions of cake businesses while social media is one huge liberal monopoly right now. Again, I am not condoning their actions but the situations are incomparable, the owners' actions should be compared to the Muslim employees of supermarkets refusing to process pork, the Social Media censoring policies are more akin to the methods of fascist/communist totalitarian dictatorships and "No Blacks Allowed" supremacists-owned businesses of the past.
     
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    But social media wasn't telling conservatives they couldn't join Facebook (the restaurant) - they were just kicking them out when they spit on the cook.
     
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    Again, would you feel alright about having to put communist propaganda on your private site?. How about pedophiles? NAMBLA has some really interesting stuff

    Whether a person is a Black or an ethnic Jew is a question of birth and of who you ARE, your politics is something you DO, it's not the same thing at all.
     

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