I was discussing the biblical fairy tale, which you have gotten all out of sequence. Take an hour to read the book of Revelation and take notes on what you read.
Jesus will return with a sword in His mouth. This is not literal, rather His weapon will be His tongue. He will reveal truth to the world, all lies will be revealed. A higher state of conscience will arrive from this. My lies, your lies, all will be shamed. Whoever approaches Him, will be shamed. Nobody will want to lust over Him, rather they will fear Him.
I wonder if he would have Rabbi Nachman with him as one of those tens of thousands who will be with H-m???? http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=405032&page=3&p=1066717679#post1066717679 - - - Updated - - - Well said! I think that you are very very very close to the truth in these assertions!
LOL. I suggest the same thing to you. Unlike you, IMO, I have actually read it, twice. And, as YOU DO NOT KNOW, imo, this book barely got into the NT, for too many people thought it was rubbish. But it did play to people's fears, and by fear the church controls its members.... Hate to (*)(*)(*)(*) in your cereal...
And it will not be a physical return. If the kingdom is within, then consciousness is of the highest order. So, He will return in consciousness, and that is where the work will be done. It will transform humanity, finally, and human nature will no longer rule over the brain, but rationality, reason with a moral center driving it will prevail...finally. For all of the problems of humanity have always been caused by a deep selfishness, which creates sin, the sin of murder, greed, lying, cheating, lusting, envying, and by these things are other human beings hurt and damaged.
The whole thing is just a fairy tale. The Catholic Bible has a lot more interesting stories and like the Protestant Bible it also contains Revelation. The book of Revelation is sort of based on the book of Zephaniah.
Since you've read the Bible what do the various stories illustrate? For instance, what principle does the Samson story illustrate? Why did the wise men bring gifts to baby Jesus? What principle does the story of Lot and his skanky daughters illustrate?
Everyone should take time to baptize his ancestors so that they have a chance to get into the golden cube. 1 Corinthians 15:29 (MSG) = "Why do you think people offer themselves to be baptized for those already in the grave? If there’s no chance of resurrection for a corpse, if God’s power stops at the cemetery gates, why do we keep doing things that suggest he’s going to clean the place out someday, pulling everyone up on their feet alive?"
great a god of love that everyone is supposed to fear. Nice intellectual and emotional dichotomy ya got there.
MSG? Why do you always quote from translations that are deliberately wrong, translations that sacrifice accuracy for ease of reading in English? MSG is literally a paraphrase of the Bible, it was translated to provide a sort of rhythmic flow of English words, not to be accurate. Go read 1 Corinthians 15:1-33 in the NIV to get the context and not to pull out one sentence from a Paul's argument. On the part you tried to quote: 29 Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? That is the only place in the entire Bible which implies a person can be baptized on behalf of someone else. It may just as easily mean that people expect to be reunited with dead Christian family members. Being baptized for someone else is not in agreement with the major teachings of the New Testament, such as salvation is voluntary and each person must accept salvation. But that's not the point, the point that Paul is making to the Corinthians is that the dead in Christ will be resurrected. In the entire section, he argues that if Christ was not resurrected, and if all the followers of Christ (dead and alive) are not resurrected, then Chrsitianity is a scam, and they are all wasting their time and efforts.
Not a dichotomy at all. You can love and fear a person. Many people love and fear their parents, its not an irrational fear but a simple understanding that their parents have authority over them and should be obeyed or there will be consequences.
Well we know it's a scam. The Paul character couldn't keep his lies straight. However, the 1 Corinthians 15:29 verse does show that the original Christians did do proxy baptisms for their ancestors. It was one of their basic rituals. They probably got the idea of baptism from India. Since people think that they want to spend eternity with their family members why wouldn't they do proxy baptisms as a way to get them into the golden cube? The good thing is that it doesn't require Christians to die killing non-believers like muslim martyrs have to do in order to get 70 of their buddies into paradise.
Not quite right. You know the choice, you know enough about God and the Bible to make an informed choice, and its all up to you. If you choose incorrectly then you did it to yourself. If in school the teacher says there is a test tomorrow, and you don't study and fail, its not the teachers fault, its all your fault.
That darn slime worm god on the planet Gertdbyon in the Sombero Galaxy says that it's going to eat Jesus in the next hour of intergalatic time. It promises to have video.
It depends upon the image that he is, He will never talk about weird stuffs but I could it will be entirely about salvation. He will be abhorred by those who could not relate but be loved by those who do have total faith in Him.
Not one person in the past 2,000 years has ever had total faith in Jesus. He said that if a person has faith in him and doesn't doubt that the person would be able to do even greater things than he did. So far no one has been able to command a tree to uproot itself and to jump into the nearest lake as commanded.
Maybe I could love and fear another person, with all their human imperfections and frailties. But a god is not a person, what reason would a god have for ego, hatred, spite or vengeance? Most people I know who lived in genuine fear of their parents as opposed to love and respect certainly suffered because of the dichotomy that creates, indeed many still suffer now.
I'm not so sure about that. It is said that Jesus will reign on earth for 1,000 years. His bride, which will be the new Jerusalem, is a city that comes down from Heaven. This will have every person on earth hit their knees in sorrow and fear. The city in which Jesus will reign will have 12 gates, each being protected by one of the 12 disciples, and within satan will be in chains. There will still be other nations and kingdoms, everyone will want in Jesus city, but not everyone will be allowed. Other nations will look to copy this city. After the 1,000 years, satan will be let loose one more time, he will go and deceive the nations once again. Revelation 20King James Version (KJV) 20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. King James Version (KJV)
Is that why the Pope claims to be Jesus Christ hidden under a veil of flesh? He also claims to have the power to forgive sins, change and interpret the word of the Almighty. Did you know that? 1.) These words are written in the Roman Canon Law 1685: "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical. "Father A. Pereira says: "It is quite certain that Popes have never approved or rejected this title 'Lord God the Pope,' for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome in1580 by Gregory XIII." 2.) "The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh."-Catholic National, July 1895 3.) "We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty"-Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894 4.) Pope Nicholas I declared that "the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man." (Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para) 1.): "The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." -Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous," attributed to Pope Pius V. 2.) "The supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires... complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself." Leo VIII, «On the Chief Duties of Christians as Citizens», Encyclical letter, 1890 3): "All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope." -On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17 Absolute BLASPHEMY! http://www.trueorthodoxy.org/heretics_roman_catholics_pope_as_christ.shtml
My main assumption will be he is some kind or tool of ET trying to trick humanity pretending to be the Messiah so many religions are waiting for so would be very skeptical likely openly challenging him being some divine being. Face it all the major religions and many lesser ones are waiting for some Messiah so how much would they oppose a being appearing as some divine being doing miracles which could be only advanced alien technology.
It will be a deception, just not so much as an alien. Rather acting like Christ himself. Highlighted in green shows what to look for. Jesus- 2 Thessalonians 2:3King James Version (KJV) 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; The son of perdition will come as Jesus, he will have lies and wonders (perform miracles), a very excellent way with words, he will deceive many. 2 Thessalonians 2King James Version (KJV) 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work. 11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed
