If you had to convert...

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Moshty, Aug 9, 2019.

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Which religion would you convert to?

  1. Christianity

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Islam

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  3. Judaism

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. Hinduism

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  5. Buddhism

    8 vote(s)
    28.6%
  6. Bahaism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Other

    11 vote(s)
    39.3%
  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I did forget about the coffee and soda ban, so that's out. Obviously Islam and Judaism are off the list for similar reasons. I'm not giving up bacon for any god.
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Are you that into your own religion?
     
  3. Moshty

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    oh, a religion phobic. It's the first I hear of that.

    Now if someone started selling bacon on the street. And I can't eat it. Do you think it would be only right for me to go complain that they don't have any other options available? Or would you just tell me to get my 'something else' from elswhere?

    If you know what I mean..
     
  4. Arjay51

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    My, you like to make up word games and pretend that you have made some kind of point.

    In truth, you are just another one who wants to control all others.

    Why would anyone, outside of your silly world, "have to pick a religion"? Because YOU say so? How much of a Hitlerian are you?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I chose 'other' because I think Old Norse or 'Asatro' is pretty interesting. Though I almost chose Hinduism.
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Remember the biblical stories about Moses and his thugs killing thousands of people because they didn't believe in his fairy tale. King Asa did the same thing. In 2 Maccabees, chapter 7, there is a story about a family who refused to convert despite being horrifically tortured. I wouldn't hang around to endure the torture. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2maccabees7&version=CEB
     
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    What religion do you have that you would face torture and death to hang onto it?
     
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    If somebody's gonna hold a gun to my head...
    ...why the hell would he give me a choice?
     
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    Bahai
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Freedom.
     
  11. jay runner

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    On ABC GMA this morning science is saying that caffeine gives people migraine headaches. So Joseph Smith was intuitively correct in proscribing coffee and tea for Mormon church members.

    I really like a beer on a 99 degree F. day after chores are done, so I couldn't be a Mormon, however.
     
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    A lot depends on the nature of the consequences if I don't. and what I'd have to do to show 'good faith'. If I am threatened with jail or death. I'll convert to whatever, sign their little oath, show up to favored house of worship a couple of times a year. I don't want to go to jail or be stoned but I don't give a rats ass which faith I fake to stay free.
     
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  13. Lil Mike

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    So let me guess, you are agnostic/atheist and think you would prefer torture and death rather than give lip service to a false creed? I totally get why a religious person would do that, since their afterlife is at stake, but yours isn't. In fact, nothing is at stake.
     
  14. Moshty

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    Migreane is something a persons brain determines. So not all People can have Migreanes at all. And certainly not all People get head aches from coffee.
     
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    It was on Good Morning America. It has to be true, doesn't it?
     
  16. Moshty

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    Maybe he's a Bahai.
     
  17. Moshty

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    Not really.
     
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    Been to several fireside chats long ago, I think that is what they called it, fireside something, anyway. I never had the feeling a Bahai would hold a gun on me, or put any pressure on me. Because they didn't.

    One of my combat buddies did convert and married the fireside chat leader's daughter.
     
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    How about no religion and have no wish to change that or be forced to change that?
     
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    Well let me put it this way: I understand why a religious person, someone who might be honored as a martyr and be rewarded in the afterlife, would be willing to endure torture and death to not renounce his or her faith. However I don't get why a non religious person would endure that. The religious person dies a martyr for something they believe in. The non religious person dies for...literally nothing at all.
     
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    Truth of the matter is, all people die for that reason. Prove otherwise.
     
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    I believe the point is timing. The human mind is inclined to looking for ways to postpone death.
     
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    The truth of the matter is that if you had a choice to die of brutal torture ending in death now, or be let go to die when nature takes it's course, that's usually a pretty easy decision for most people to make. It's not an identical decision because we all die sometime.

    It's hard to believe an atheist would choose to die that way for no other reason than trolling, rather than live, when he knows this is the only life he gets.
     
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    Which neither affirms or denies my post of the truth. When dead, there is no "timing".
     
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    In spite of what you try to claim, you have neither reputed or denied my post. How you die does not matter if you are dead.

    Once again, prove me wrong.
     

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