If you refuse the vaccine, you don't matter. It's the people you infect that matter!

Small rural hospitals didn’t close because they were overrun. They closed because of the shut downs. Full beds mean $$$.

 

You seem not to know what facts are then. Active exclusion of or unwillingness to recount all of the facts is an active omission of facts to be discussed. Cardinal sin, lying. Guess that's why they feel so willing to engage in it. The don't believe.....

 

There's a funny South Park episode involving gut bacteria and in-shape football athlete Tom Brady.
The premise centers around the idea of people being able to improve their health through the use of someone else's gut microbes, and takes the idea to an absurd level.

https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/t5y3o8/south-park-can-we-have-some-of-your-poop

https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/n4e5ab/south-park-so-much-spice

 

I’ll have to look that up and see if I can find it on YouTube or somewhere. I saw a pretty good one on Cartman evading vaccination the other day. South Park is so funny because it’s so scary accurate and demonstrates how absurd of a society we’ve become.

 

Wrong! Only those who spread it by acting irresponsibly are at fault.

 

So your post WAS intended to introduce the strawman. As I predicted.

You are too predictable.

 

I'm sure. But anti-science folk need to be reminded that they are the problem. So it's worth repeating.

 

Golem, do you know what parody is? There is no strawman argument here.

 

Yes, Golem is anti science and that is definitely a problem.

 

All for it! Deny the unvaccinated entrance to any building that is open to the public.

 

The obese spread Covid and other diseases disproportionately. This is irresponsible.

 

And the obese?

 

That is B.S., but off-topic. 1 in every 500 Americans have died of Covid. And it's people who refuse to take the shot the ones that are responsible for most of the deaths still taking place. There is NO "right" to infect others with a deadly disease. That is the topic of this thread.

If you want to spread conspiracy theories, use the Conspiracy forum. Not here!

 

Don't just quote the OP. Read it!

 

You called it.

 

There is no vaccine that stops the spread either so who’s to say the vaccinated aren’t spreading it even if they may be asymptotic? Acting as if the unvaccinated are the only carriers is a complete lie

 

Makes no difference to my point. Point of this thread is that there is no right to spread a deadly disease. The science behind masks and vaccines have been amply explained to science-deniers on other threads.

If you have something to say about the topic, say it. If you can't rebut it, then don't just try to change the subject.

 

Why you all worked up about “rights” to spread deadly disease” now, bro? I’ve never seen you complaining about people spreading influenza or staph. Why are you concerned with only one deadly disease? Why are you only concerned with Covid vaccination when reducing obesity would be much more beneficial to everyone’s safety?

Frankly, I’m concerned for your health. You are exhibiting classic signs of obsessive behavior.

• Thoughts about harming oneself or someone else
• Fear that another person is performing harmful actions against the individual
• Intrusive thoughts about breaking social, religious, or cultural taboos
• Requiring items, personal affects, or people to be in a specific order
• Fear of contamination

 

There is no scientific basis for your claim. CNN fear porn is not scientific evidence. If you are vaxxed and masked, you have nothing to fear from a maskless unvaxxed. Assuming vaxxing and masking actually work. So if you believe in the efficacy of the mask, and of the vax, take the vax, wear the mask. Don't forget your goggles and rubber gloves. And don't forget to roll up your windows and drive around town like this. Those covids are smart. They'll follow you and they can smell fear.

 

If the vax works... you have nothing to fear if you are vaccinated. Take the vaccine. If the mask works, you have nothing to fear from an unmasked person. Wear the mask. Mask + vax together should give you all the sense of superiority, errrrm, security you need.

 

It's not a phantom. Millions know it's real, but they don't know anything very shortly, being dead.

 

Post of the day!!

 

What would you accept as scientific evidence? The mechanism by which unvaccinated people can infect others is well known and understood. What is it that you don't understand?

Unvaccinated people are the main ones getting the disease now and they are taking up hospital space that is often desperately needed by people with completely unrelated maladies and conditions. These displaced people are beginning to die in appreciable numbers

If those who refuse the vaccine would also refuse treatment should symptoms manifest that might obviate this difficulty. Are you willing to do that?

 

What I would accept is actual scientific evidence produced under the strictures of the Scientific Method.

Watch carefully, I will now correct your false statement: The mechanism by which infected people can infect others is well known and understood.

Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem: I am not the topic of this thread. A factual rebuttal would better support your argument.

Prior to the pandemic drug addicts, gangbangers and their victims, the homeless, generally unhealthy people, the morbidly-obese, drunk drivers and their victims, Type-II diabetics, hypertensives, AIDS patients, illegal aliens, people who got frozen vegetables stuck in their rectums, et al, took up disproportionate hospital space. With very few exceptions, these maladies are the result of poor personal choices. However, EMTALA requires medical facilities to provide emergent care to anyone who walks through the door. This places an enormous strain on resources, and often becomes the burden of the U.S. taxpayer. But we tolerate the results of these poor personal choices.

See above.

 

Your original attempt was a misguided parody. Your last attempt was a strawman to try to justify your misguided parody which, was not only predictable, but which I explicitly predicted.

Anyway.... if you have anything to say about the topic of this thread, go for it. If not... thanks for playing....