Ilhan Omar Slammed U.S. Soldiers Involved in ‘Black Hawk Down’ Incident

Avanetti will not be out of prison by then.

 

the failure America makes time and time again is trying to bring civilization to a country that is uncivilized and doesn't have a clue how to act civilized
best to let those countries be let them kill themselves off so we can start with a clean slate

 

She also fails to point out how the Somalis used women and children as human shields to try and keep from getting shot at.

She is just another really stupid Democrat who wormed her way into the gov't and is now bent on destroying it. She needs to be investigated and thrown out of office. It's illegal to marry your own brother.

 

yeah sadly... children are a dime a dozen in Africa... at times potentially also used like kevlar

 

If she wants to compare the number of dead, at least present the data accurately.

Part of the reason for the disparity in casualties is the US has some damn fine warriors.

And yes, that swarming was captured in the movie.

 

we went to Somalia because the waring warlords were committing genocide by taking over humanitarian aid and not distributing it to the starving
American troops were sent to protect the aid and make sure it was distributed to the starveling and eliminate those warlords that were committing the genocide

 

I think it's the part where there are people trying to kill you, running directly towards you, while you are holding a deadly weapon she has difficulty with...it is rather unorthodox

 

We're not talking about Libya, and I'm not sure you would want to since you supported one of the architects of that disaster. Omar was talking about Somalia. So trying to throw off the topic by talking about military misadventures overseas is a bit beside the point.




American forces were attacked by warlords. She seems to be taking the warlord side in this.

 

Africa is africa.

 

If the US had stayed out of Somalia she wouldn't be here. Blame busybody Bush.

 

She does. After the US went in to save Somali's from people like that warlord.

It gets better, she asked for and received asylum to this country.

Goes on to get elected as a congressional rep.

And she still likely has such an opinion.

 

The Democratic party has become a cesspool of hate mongering deplorables.

 

Agreed.

Even Donald Trump Jr is asking about this....

Is the media going to ask every Democrat if they agree with Ilhan Omar that American troops are killers?!?
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1120402231927431168

 

Yes. I agree that from our point of view it seems we were doing the right thing.

The same is true in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Libya, Korea, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Nicaragua, Cuba and a number of other places.

I think the question has more to do with whether we were in a position to actually accomplish that right thing and whether the locals are willing to pay the price and accept our intervention.

Even just after the Egyptian revolution, where we shot nobody, a significant percent of the population wanted nothing to do with the US or our ideas - even to the point of rejecting ideas simply because they seemed American.

I don't believe we have a good idea of how our interventions are viewed by local populations.

 

This was a humanitarian mission during a famine where hundreds of thousands were dying.

War lords were confiscating donations to the poor from around the world.

To be clear, this war lord was not a politician, and he was feeding off of a dying nation.

 

Has Omar chimed in with her thoughts on yesterday's bombings?

 

Yes - as I mentioned above, our intentions were good.

In fact, we nearly had a solution. We managed to get a good number of the local leaders to start seeing themselves as being better off as part of a whole.

The one holdout, a serious criminal, was able to kill the deal, so we decided to go after him with our military.

 

I haven't heard anything.

 

Eliminating the local leadership doesn't always work. We did that in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, at least. We ended the government of Iran and installed our guy - requiring the locals to raise hard core opposition to get him out. We're still dealing with that opposition. We ended the government of Vietnam, installing puppets incapable of addressing local need. Ten years after we left Americans could book a vacation to Hanoi.

I'm not saying that we didn't have pure motives, though there certainly are issues there. I'm saying that we overestimate our abilities and think in the short term.

We get outraged by the impending slaughter of tens of thousands in Libya - so, we go in. But, that doesn't mean we reduce the death toll or establish something better. And, we do leave a local understanding of what it means for an outside military force to conquer their country - and who did it.

 

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This war in Somalia has to be taken in a larger context. What did we leave behind?

Our mission was built on good intentions and made significant progress at the outset. We invaded. We did better at handing out food while we were there. We got a number of the leaders to see it as important that they work together.

The plan to go in after the dissenting leader was clearly screwed up.

One can not consider this an American success - regardless of getting the body count on one day right.

In the end, you have to ask the people in Somalia whether our invasion worked for them.

 

We should never put our soldiers in danger for "good intentions", or "nation building". That Somalia incident burned and saddened me with the pointless deaths of our soldiers....and now this disgusting Somalia woman .....she is a piece of Sh#t. No way around it.

 

Bill Clinton was president during the "Black Hawk Down" incident so its surprising, fellow Democrat Omar is critical of it. She is an anti-Semitic, anti-American fanatic and a disgrace to Congress -
but she is a female Liberal and so is imune from negative press coverage or condemnation from fellow Liberals.

 

I suppose special envoy Robert Oakley was a bizarre conspiracy theorist too? He was Reagan's special envoy on terrorism and was brought out of retirement to lead ahead of the troops to smooth things over before they advanced, a very brave diplomat. He'd go into a village or town and explain what the soldiers were there for and to allay fears of invasion then the soldiers led in the relief workers. He said the Blackhawk down incident was an incredibly stupid mistake because it transformed the mission from humanitarian to invasion.
I tend to agree.
It's also why you see every aid agency distancing themselves from the US in Venezuela because of Trump's apparent willingness to mix aid and military again. It looks good on paper but Blackhawk down is what you up risk.

 

How must bullshit is going to be put out about this lady?

Here is just one page from Snopes of the nonsense.