Illegal immigrants burden UMC

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  1. TRS

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    http://www.lvrj.com/news/53343302.html

     
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    Even criminals get medical treatement if they need it. Why shouldn't they?
     
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    Why? Because UMC wants to survive. If UMC keeps this up it will not survive.
     
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    It's the law. Even if you don't like it, you have to follow it.
     
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    Have you heard of Cloward and Piven? What about Saul Alinsky? The strategy of Cloward and Piven, and the tactics of Alinsky have been adopted by conservatives. The existing system can be overwhelmed. Economics trumps the law.
     
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    No, that's why we have rules and regulations. Government rules before economics.
     
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    Illegal immigrants have manipulated it to a perfection. If you understood how it works it would clear. These ingrates had these medical problems be for coming to the US.They know how the law works.
     
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    Illegal immigrants are hordes. They only want what they want,and don't care about the effects afterwords.
     
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    Govt. is dependent on economic vitality. You have things backwards.
     
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    The American health care system can be gamed by illegal aliens. There is only so much health care to go around. It is finite. To the extent it is consumed by illegal aliens it is not available to Americans.
     
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    Yes the US does have rules and regulations,and laws.There put into place for a reason. But when did that make a difference to an illegal immigrant that knowingly enters the US illegally?
     
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    Illegal aliens are to us as the European colonists and White Settlers were to American Indians, i.e., a separate and distinct replacement population. The US Govt. will never close the southern border.
     
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    I would have to agree,but its funny that these same government people are going to drink out of the same water.that there letting people (*)(*)(*)(*) in.
     
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    Illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America are some of the most impoverished, ignorant and unskilled people on earth. They bring nothing to America that America doesn't already have. They are in California in overwhelming numbers.
     
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    And that's why it's law. Criminals have the right to medical care.

    Not nessicarly.
     
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    You have a right to waltz on the deck of the Titanic. But the iceberg has the final say.

    No where is it written that the existing order in America must continue to exist.
     
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    I know America is going to collapse one day. Nothing lives forever. But I will waltz, or maybe some cooler dance on the Titanic, then grab a pail and help get the water out.
     
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    You would be better advised to dress up like a woman and climb aboard the nearest lifeboat like Ismay.
     
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    I admire your courage. But I suspect this is the way things are going to play out:

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    I do have faith in the ideal of individual liberty, but I have no faith in a dying multicultural empire which has lost its way.
     
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    I have faith, that the nation our founding father's created, will last. We are a multi-culture nation since the beginning, and until the end.
     
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    You are confused and misguided about the modern doctrine of multi-culturalism. It is not the same thing as multi-ethnicity. Multi-culturalism as a political doctrine did not exist before 1960. Check this out :

    "...The term ‘multiculturalism’ emerged in the 1960s in Anglophone countries in relation to the cultural needs of non-European migrants. It now means the political accommodation by the state and/or a dominant group of all minority cultures defined first and foremost by reference to race or ethnicity; and more controversially, by reference to nationality, aboriginality, or religion, the latter being groups that tend to make larger claims and so tend to resist having their claims reduced to those of immigrants.

    The ethnic assertiveness associated with multiculturalism has been part of a wider current of ‘identity’ politics which has transformed the idea of equality as sameness to equality as difference. Black power, feminist, and gay pride movements challenged the ideal of equality as assimilation and contended that a positive self-definition of group difference was more liberatory. The rejection of the idea that political concepts such as equality and citizenship can be colour-blind and culture-neutral, the argument that ethnicity and culture cannot be confined to some so-called private sphere but shape political and opportunity structures in all societies, is one of the most fundamental claims made by multiculturalism and the politics of difference. It is the basis for the conclusion that allegedly ‘neutral’ liberal democracies are part of hegemonic cultures that systematically de-ethnicize or marginalize minorities. Hence, the claim that minority cultures, norms, and symbols have as much right as their hegemonic counterparts to state provision and to be in the public space, to be ‘recognized’ as groups and not just as culturally neutered individuals.

    The African-American search for dignity has contributed much to this politics, yet, ironically, it has shifted attention from socio-economic disadvantage, arguably where African-Americans' need is greatest. For multiculturalism in the US seems to be confined to the field of education and, uniquely, to higher education, especially arguments about the curriculum in the humanities. Academic argument has, however, no less than popular feeling, been important in the formulation of multiculturalism, with the study of colonial societies and political theory being the disciplines that have most forged the terms of analysis. The ideas of cultural difference and cultural group have been central to anthropology and other related disciplines focused on ‘primitive’ and non-European societies. The arrival in the metropolitan centres of peoples studied by scholars from these disciplines has made the latter experts on migrants and their cultural needs. They also enabled critics from previously colonized societies, often themselves immigrants to the ‘North’, to challenge the expert and other representations of the culturally subordinated. These intellectual developments have been influenced by the failure of the economic ‘material base’ explanations of the cultural ‘superstructure’...."

    Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/multiculturalism#ixzz1VzWlPmT8
     

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