Illegal immigrants who arrived by boat sent $5MILLION in welfare payments back home

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two threads in one day! I'm on a roll...

    To me this sounds like drug money, money laundering which begs the question are drug cartels sending "money mules" via the boats to Australia? If true this basically confirms what the government have been saying all along. These people are not true refugees, however one has to be blind and stupid not to recognise that there are millions who would do anything to escape the poor living conditions in their countries.

     
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    The large sums are suspect........very suspect but smaller sums.....

    It is not unusual for immigrants to live in poverty whilst sending money home
     
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    Posting about the issue of asylum seekers sending welfare money home??? Sh*t, how much do they get to send 450k and 200k home???

    Honestly, thread created by those who oppose the policies currently simply demonstrates shallow understanding.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gary why is a thread about this topic a problem? Are you saying this topic is taboo or that no one has the capacity to discuss respectfully?

    I think it's clear refugees do not get 450k in welfare, it's obviously money laundering, drug cartels using human misery to their benefit.

    So far we've had no ugly responses, (except yours... commenting on me personally - incorrectly btw- instead of the topic).
     
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    I dont think this is anything new...theyve been doing it worldwide for years.
    Why hasnt the government done something about it by now. Transactions over $10k have been
    under the spotlight for years
     
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    Oddly enough, in a news report last night about the number of migrants who've been arriving, or have been rescued in big numbers, from the English Channel said they'd had to pay the traffickers 5-6 thousand pounds cash. So how TF does that work - to have that much in their back pockets to hand over? I mean, it looks like being a trafficker is a license to print money. No wonder it's catching on?
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Im in the wrong job.........
     
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    I've heard- don't know how true it is, that migrant staff in nursing homes claim welfare payments while working two shifts per day. Thus , able to send money home.
    The person who told me this listens to 3AW, so there may be a little spin.
     
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    There will always be people scamming the system migrant or not

    Migrants though face huge pressure to send money home - that $5,000 cash for people smugglers - where do you think that comes from in countries where a $1 a day is good pay?? I know of a couple here - he is a surgeon she is a nurse and they are paying for 7 nieces and nephews to attend private schools in Africa. The upside of sending money home? It is enriching the countries the migrants come from ergo it is sustaining economic growth which should keep people there instead of coming here - downside is that this is not happening fast enough and there are those taking illegal routes so they can set up the same money funnel
     
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    I think we need to stop poaching educated people from poor countries.
    I know that migrants often hock themselves and their families to the back teeth in order to give someone a leg up in another country.
    I don't know how we can lift living standards in poor countries and ensure that aid doesn't go straight into the pocket of of corrupt administrators and rulers.
     
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    In countries such as Germany, Sweden, and Norway (whose ancestors were not known for playing “softball,” i.e. the Saxons and Vikings, respectively) we have been witness to rapes and beatings perpetrated by Muslim illegal aliens with the governments either looking the other way or encouraging it. Soros and those of his ilk in the EU have been pushing this “forced integration” of an invasion of illegals with a huge ethnic and religious gap between them and the host nations.

    The controllers (oligarchs and politicos) are pushing these (numerically speaking) armies of aliens into previously stable nations…for several express purposes:

    1. The denigration of the nations’ borders, language, religion, family structure, and culture

    2. To reduce the nations’ original populace to a state of abandoning their nationalities and nationalism

    3. To place these aliens into a position where they will weaken the economies of the nations (by being forced onto the dole) and also utilizing their numbers for support when it comes time to “vote” in these nations.
    We have been witnessing an internal conquest fomented upon each of these European nations more effective than any invasion with military resources. The controllers are “injecting” these aliens into the populations and allowing their destructive natures and habits (completely at odds with the host nation) to destroy those countries….from within.
     
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    This mass immigration is war without ballistics. One day, when it's too bloody late, the gormless liberal West will wake up and realise it.
     
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    Yeah, yeah You don't like the response so it is an ugly response...

    It isn't taboo at all. the point is that you and all those who wish demonise those who have been pointing at this very issue as demonstrating they are not true refugees but economic refugees. Which in itself is being generous.

    So now, it is legitimate topic of discussion because of who raised it???


    So the circle revolves and now you want to discuss the topic with respect when just a short time ago you would beat it over our heads. Is it obvious it is laundered??? Have you ever thought it is return on investments??? Is it necessarily illegal???
     
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    I just read a little more. AND HOLLY COW, these pro-immigration people are far more damaging to people of another nation than the people who want to narrow the field to true refugees and immigrants who want to be part of Australia rather than gouge it for all it offers.


    After all, since the last 30yrs of government has done nothing to accommodate the growth of immigration in Australia. The nation is fast running out of ability to educate, house or provide health for a growing nation and these people want to throw money at corporations to grow their wealth, throw more money at unsustainable operations of business, throw money at expensive practices of creating welfare dependant society then to build the infrastructure and base to help the people who live and want to come to Australia…
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol: and where exactly did I demonise ..... I am a witch you know demonising is within my repertoire, but in this case I certainly didn't demonise anyone.

    I think it's an important topic, we have a large and ever increasing refugee problem worldwide... we've got to demonise it lol sorry we've got to talk about
     
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    I could point out several places, but that is counter intuitive. The point was made and frankly, I feel vindicated that people are offended of the hypocrisy I point out. That will bring either the truth in discussion or the ignorant haters out. So we can see who stands were (not that we already don’t know).

    It is an extremely important subject, I do agree. So, let us discuss it with true reasonable consideration.

    Major problem one, the ever increasing refugee problem??? There is HUGE difference here in this subject of refugee AND immigrant. Means, desires and necessities make HUGE difference in this issue. We have government who want to provide help to true refugees who don’t pay to go to a country of choice. But those who flee with the cloths on their back to first safe place, refugee camps for help and assistance. But we have parties and people who want to simply point to issues and claim their stance shows their humanity and value to community. It does not, it simply shows they will ignore everything around them to show something they are not.


    I think the fact they have the ability to send huge quantities of cash back home to family to grow the family wealth points out the fact these people are not fleeing anything. It points to the fact they are prepared to flee Australia for a better place should they find one...
     
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    no really... please indulge me... where? :lol:

    I think the refugees are being used as money mules to launder drug money. They are sent over here and used to transfer money out... money that are not theirs. It is not unusual for drug cartels to take advantage of the less fortunate in a community.
     
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    And here you demand, serious discussion…

    So in other words, it is not a refugee problem but a criminal problem.


    Again you talk about serious discussion.
     

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