Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

There is no rational reason to believe he is a nazi lol. It’s clear projection. He defended himself and had every right to.

 

Well educated legal professionals disagree. I will trust them first.

 

Well educated legal professionals agree with me as well. So clearly you are trusting only those that confirm your bias as opposed to the evidence before your very eyes.

Ive always found it interesting that dems need to be told what to believe by experts, even in fields like law which are super philosophical and subjective as opposed to doing thier own evaluations when the evidence is almost completely available to the public.

baaa

 

Except I’m the one willing to let our fine judicial system play out. You are not.

 

Because I’m not a sheep who just accepts what our corrupt politicians or justice system does just because an alleged sme said so. Especially considering our own president, the idiot he is, tainted this process by commenting that Kyle was wrong in the first place.

 

He was charged by the state of Wisconsin. The president really has no say. And he wasn’t president at the time Rittenhouse was charged. Very conservative state of Wisconsin I might add.

 

The president has influence and already used that influence and tainted this entire process to be biased against him.

 

We will find out next month.

 

We already know

 

And if he is convicted?

 

It will be a wrongful conviction.

 

Your opinion is noted. Inconsequential, but noted.

 

No.

Wisconsin is not very conservative.

 

Its the objective truth based on the evidence provided. Your inability to see that is not my fault.

 

The worlds doesn’t revolve around your opinions no matter how much you want them too.

 

your being dishonest with your reply. my statement was in regards to the absurdity of you trying to claim the pedo was "scared" and therefore gets to claim self defense. And has nothing to do with Kyles right to self defense.
His actions as I pointed out, with acting like a lunatic screaming for someone to shoot me n****r trying to fight them and then chasing after someone is not the actions of someone fearful of his life.. thats the actions of someone that is trying to start a fight. Your claim that he was scared is utterly absurd

Well I would like to give you props for actually trying to talk about something with some legal merit behind it rather then doing everything in your power to ignore the actual laws..

This one Kyle might get hit with. Although its just a misdemeanor crime so nothing will really happen to him on this one.

But this is actually kind of a grey area with how the laws are written. There is some exceptions that a 17 year old is allowed to carry a gun. One of them is the gun cant be a shortened barrel, (like a sawed off shotgun) his wasnt. Or if he is hunting he has to have proper hunting license. he wasnt hunting so this does not apply to him. There was a few others as well and his legal team put forth a motion to dismiss this charge based on the gray area with the laws and the Judge is considering it (or at least he was in the pre trial) so it does point to the law not being very precise and cut and dry

It doent matter if in that last second he was scared for his life. He has no legal right to claim self defense. I have posted the actual law to you several times. He forfeited his right to self defense based on his illegal actions.

He ran away from him so yes thats usually what happens when you are fearful of your life
yes after he heard the shot was when he went from "flight" mode to "fight" mode.. so what.. thats not a legal argument for anything

right after kyle stopped the pedo physically assaulted him and tried to steal his gun.. thats why the pedo got shot.

I asked a question and you answered it. Thats not a personal attack. if you didnt want everyone to know how you really feel about pedophiles then you could of not answered the question. sorry dude but whatever flack your getting from other posters is because you outed yourself, thats on you..

Me pointing out that your absurd premises do not hold up to the actual law is not omitting anything

stop lying you have no idea how Kyle felt in that instance.. But we can make a pretty good educated guess due to the fact that he ran for his life..

Again so what? what legal argument are you trying to say here? Just because the gun shot was the point that Kyle realized that plan A wasnt going to work and he needed to go into plan B is not a legal argument for anything. other then help prove that Kyle actually did MORE then the law requires to prove he was acting in self defense. Some states have a harder threshold for self defense, as in you MUST try and retreat to claim self defense. WI does not have that strict of a law for self defense, but you pointing out that he could still claim self defense in a stricter state really helps his case here..

First off he was not getting drunk, he was in a bar in WI with his mom so its legal for him to have a beer in a bar in WI with his parent there.
Second Nazi is a far left ideology not far right. The Nazi party was a socialist party, its the National Socialist Workers' Party. Socialism and far right is not a thing, Socialism is a left ideology.

you want to call him alt right or whatever then that might make more sense, I mean I have no idea how far right he really is but I would assume he is probably more on the right side of the spectrum of things

And when it comes to far right vs pedophile its a very easy choice for me. I will NEVER be on the side of a child rapist

 

Doesn’t matter, I am objectively correct regardless of how much you don’t want that to be true

 

That's not the way opinions work. Your facts are not everybody else’s. Sorry you aren’t that important.

 

They aren’t my facts, they are objective facts regardless of the wrong opinions you and others have said here.

there is a difference between opinion and objective fact. I’m simply putting out objective truth.

 

I would assume you make the same argument with individuals on this board when they accuse our previous prez of criminal wrongdoing.

 

No you didn’t. You just think you did.

I always let the system play out. It’s rarely wrong.

 

Well when I see you defending DT like I see you defending Rittenhouse's attacker then I'll buy it.

 

Huh? Wisconsin currently has a Dem Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Attorney General, Secretary of State, and State Treasurer. It went for Joe Biden in 2020 too.

 

Another hearing today. I have not watched it yet, so no summary this time:

 

Watched just a tiny snippet but I had not heard before some of the comments Rosenbaum made. According to an independent witness he told Rittenhouse and another, that "if I get either of you alone I'm going to kill you." Also made comments about having no fear and going to "rip his heart out." Why is the state pursuing these charges?